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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2017, 02:35:06 PM »

voting was scheduled to be starting now, eh?
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2017, 02:38:03 PM »

Cowards
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2017, 02:42:03 PM »


"I don't blame Paul," Trump tells m
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https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845358347801055233
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2017, 02:53:55 PM »

Time for a real conservative alternative to Obamacare.

would that be one which is anti-populist or one which trump could approve?

just asking for a friend.
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2017, 02:54:55 PM »


Trump isn't bringing up healthcare again anytime soon per @costareports
https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/845361697099517955
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2017, 02:56:54 PM »




Costa on MSNBC: Trump says bill won’t be coming back in near future & he’ll see if the Dems want to work with him on healthcare.
https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/845361857774931968
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 02:58:43 PM »

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see if you can find the contradiction.
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2017, 03:01:50 PM »




WH source tells me the decision to pull the bill was Ryan’s. Any chance of passing something on health care soon? “We’re moving on.

https://twitter.com/MichaelRWarren/status/845363524658479104
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2017, 03:05:50 PM »



Sample quotes coming from @mikedebonis, @daveweigel chats w/GOP: The #AHCA bill is "Dead. DOA." "We're done with health care this year."
https://twitter.com/karoun/status/845365065473818625
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2017, 03:11:19 PM »



Lawmakers say Paul Ryan says "we are done with the subject. We are moving on," per @HouseInSession

https://twitter.com/karoun/status/845365065473818625
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2017, 03:17:16 PM »



Trump told me he's willing to cut a bipartisan deal in the future: "When it explodes they [Dems] come to us and we make one beautiful deal
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845366917917544449



TRUMP told me he is happy having this in the rearview mirror. "It's enough already," he said of the negotiations.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/845367270759153664
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2017, 03:55:48 PM »

David Frum, who got sacked from the AEI in 2010 cause of his stand against anti-compromising Republicanism re: O-Care in this blog post....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/28/waterloo.html

publishes....after being proven right by history today....Waterloo - Part 2

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/the-republican-waterloo/520833/

#schadenfreude

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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2017, 03:57:40 PM »

Congressman Joe Barton (R-Tx)


https://twitter.com/AliceOllstein/status/845373755136380929
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2017, 04:04:05 PM »
« Edited: March 24, 2017, 04:08:44 PM by ApatheticAustrian »

Trump's not totally wrong though: The massive premium hikes are not going over well with the working class and it will depend on how effectively Republicans and Trump will tie this to the Democrats before the next elections.

even if i would accept that you got a point, republicans control EVERYTHING and have chosen to change NOTHING.

there was a real price spike close before the election and NO ONE at all argues, that it has decided the election in any way.

i agree that the system must be fixed but without killing it and that can only be achieved if both sides agree on the need for fixing.

this is not about the skills of the democrats....i would say republicans would need an unbelievable amount of political capital to blame the minority successfully after years of total control.

didn't work in 2010 with much worse conditions, won't work in 2018/2020.
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2017, 04:12:35 PM »


to be totally fair....would you, as a more or less moderate republican center-roader, want to start an argument with the koch bros. organizations, ted cruz et al/freedom caucus, 100 different outside groups and think tanks and invite a possible primary opponent for a  hypothetical show-off vote which changes....nothing?
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2017, 04:24:09 PM »

Trump's not totally wrong though: The massive premium hikes are not going over well with the working class and it will depend on how effectively Republicans and Trump will tie this to the Democrats before the next elections.

even if i would accept that you got a point, republicans control EVERYTHING and have chosen to change NOTHING.

True, but Trump is not a "real" Republican.

I can't see that this failure is worse (for Trump) than if this disgusting bill would be passed..

i totally agree, at this point it was a lose-lose situation.

nearly impossible to make Ocare more secure and don't make millions lose coverage and not raising taxes at the same time, without also increasing the deficit at the same time.

small-gov populism doesn't work.

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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2017, 04:26:59 PM »

Frankly, the most shocking this about this whole debacle for me is that the Democrats actually had a backbone and fought for something with unanimity.

could have played out differently if trump actucally would have led the reform process, shoved ryan under under the bus and made a good, big-gov offer.

it's his fault and schumer's luck that he is only talking big-gov until now.
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2017, 04:47:47 PM »

gorsuch (or hardiman) is the one thing which was automatically clear after the election. everything else is in play.
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2017, 04:49:22 PM »


https://twitter.com/justin_halpern/status/845386722741370881
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2017, 10:24:10 AM »



Bannon walked into Freedom Caucus meeting,said "This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill."

Answer:


https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/845635296607789056
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2017, 09:00:08 PM »

according to current rumours, not Ryan but Priebus is going to fall on this sword.


Source close to @POTUS says he's being advised to replace @Reince45 & is open to possibility -- healthcare was last straw
https://twitter.com/tarapalmeri/status/845696980416430080
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2017, 03:14:42 PM »


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https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/846092051758436353
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2017, 09:45:24 AM »



Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2017, 11:27:03 AM »


Ryan should probably step down. How can Republicans in Congress be expected to respect and follow a man that does something like that?

simple question ...which is also an answer......who else would want to do that job?

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