Assange arrested

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Yeah he was smart to just surrender...

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Hopefully he will be duly tried for what he is charged of, and the justice will determine whether he is guilty or not. Like any other citizen.

Uh, he's not like any other citizen.........so nothing will be terribly familiar.  Any other citizen might not even be charged....if you remember charges were pending, withdrawn, now miraculously pending again after a wikileaks dump......sound like every other citizen to you?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

No bail....lol.  What a sham.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

No bail....lol.  What a sham.

Actually, no, not really. Given the allegations and the fact that he's not from here, there was never any chance of him getting bail, irrespective of everything else.

I'm happy to take your word on that, Al.  Thanks.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Actually I suppose an absolute disappearance is the most likely event.

Ala, GITMO?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Actually I suppose an absolute disappearance is the most likely event.

Ala, GITMO?

They have their own baseball field?

How do you know that's not for the guards?

It's surrounded by cell blocks.

JJ, do you think the personnel there sleep outside.....I'd call them bunkhouses

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

From the UK Independent:

Informal discussions have already taken place between US and Swedish officials over the possibility of the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange being delivered into American custody, according to diplomatic sources.

Yeah, those charges in Sweden have nothing to do with the leaks...... 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

From the UK Independent:

Informal discussions have already taken place between US and Swedish officials over the possibility of the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange being delivered into American custody, according to diplomatic sources.

Yeah, those charges in Sweden have nothing to do with the leaks...... 

Why in the world should he be extraded in the US ? On which grounds ?

Espionage....duh. 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

From the UK Independent:

Informal discussions have already taken place between US and Swedish officials over the possibility of the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange being delivered into American custody, according to diplomatic sources.

Yeah, those charges in Sweden have nothing to do with the leaks......  

Why in the world should he be extraded in the US ? On which grounds ?

Espionage....duh.  

Is he officially charged with that ?

Not yet but here is the article I was referencing.

"The US Justice Department is considering charging Mr Assange with espionage offences over his website’s unprecedented release of classified US diplomatic files. Several right-wing American politicians are pressing for his prosecution and even execution, with Sarah Palin, the former vice-presidential candidate, saying he should be pursued the same as al-Qa’ida and Taliban leaders."

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He is a political prisoner, plain and simple.

I'm agreeing with jfern more and more lately and in this case, I'm glad to......

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Julian Assange released on bail

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216

About time

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

How long before he gets "despressed" and hangs himself?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

How long before he gets "despressed" and hangs himself?

You know, wouldn't that just be the greatest piece of trolling ever? I mean if he actually did that? Who would believe claims of suicide? lol

Yep, Al, that would be his final middle finger to the world.  

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

How long before he gets "despressed" and hangs himself?

You know, wouldn't that just be the greatest piece of trolling ever? I mean if he actually did that? Who would believe claims of suicide? lol

Yep, Al, that would be his final middle finger to the world.  

I suppose you fellows think Martin Luther King was more effective because he was assassinated.

All we said was, or all I said was........if he's found hung, he might not have done it himself.......the rest was a bit of humor.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Looks like his bail has been finally approved.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Uh, all of them can just view the stuff at home so this is hardly news, eh?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The U.S. is way overreacting to this anyway. Just restrict the access to confidential information, so that a simple Army corporal can't leak 250,000 documents anymore.

All this talk about charging Assange with espionage/conspiracy and hunting WikiLeaks like terrorists is excessive hyperbole.

Do you (I mean others too) believe this was all the work of a lowly Army officer?  I think it's foolish to believe he doesn't a mole much higher up the food chain.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It appears his legal issues in Australia are over......wonder if it matters?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Eh. He doesn't really strike me as a great man, even if some of the stuff he did was good.

Gustaf, weren't you calling him a rapist not long ago, or was it someone else?  If it was you it's clear you think he's scum, no?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Indeed the fact that the crimes he's accused of in Sweden might not actually constitute crimes in the UK at all

Why do people keep saying that when it is obviously not true?

Actually I'll make a retraction in so far as the charge relating to having sex with a sleeping woman would quite probably constitute rape per British law.

The rest I'm not so sure would constitute crimes in Britain in the absence of further detail (the most likely candidate is the charge relating to violation of sexual integrity might have a correlative law in Britain - but I don't know enough about the specifics of Swedish or British law to say with any certainty).

The one about the not using the condom. If consent was conditional on the use of a condom and he didn't use one, then consent is not present. That's rape.

Especially if the woman is sleeping.

Wait, you have a sense of humor? 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Well, American prisons are worse than dead anyway.

lol...do you actually believe that?

yeah, I actually think it might be

Dude, San Quentin is not a federal penitentiary.