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Grumpier Than Uncle Joe
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« on: January 18, 2011, 11:08:33 AM »

I've never heard anyone refer to Kasich as a rascist in any way, shape or form.

"For his part, Kasich insists he doesn't pay attention to "any of these sort of metrics." As far as the governor is concerned, he has jobs to fill, and he went out and looked for the best person for the job. "

I'm just going to take him at his word until it can be shown it's not true.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 11:23:19 AM »

I think the bottom line is px75 put this up for shock value/outrage, and it's just not there.......
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 11:34:09 AM »

I think the bottom line is px75 put this up for shock value/outrage, and it's just not there.......

Isn't it bizarre that in a state as big and diverse as Ohio, Kasich could only find white men qualified enough for a cabinet position?
Or the fact that it happens for the first time in 50 years?

I thought the article said there were some women too.........listen px, no one here believes Kasich hates blacks or browns.....k?  Thx.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 11:38:24 AM »

I think the bottom line is px75 put this up for shock value/outrage, and it's just not there.......

Isn't it bizarre that in a state as big and diverse as Ohio, Kasich could only find white men qualified enough for a cabinet position?
Or the fact that it happens for the first time in 50 years?

I thought the article said there were some women too.........listen px, no one here believes Kasich hates blacks or browns.....k?  Thx.

The article says nowhere such a thing.

"Kasich, a former congressman, Wall Street executive, and Fox News personality, has hired 20 full-time agency directors to make up his cabinet. Of the 20, 16 are white men, four are white women. No African Americans, no Hispanics, no Asians."

If you're going to post sh**t, at least read it. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 11:46:32 AM »

I think the bottom line is px75 put this up for shock value/outrage, and it's just not there.......

Isn't it bizarre that in a state as big and diverse as Ohio, Kasich could only find white men qualified enough for a cabinet position?
Or the fact that it happens for the first time in 50 years?

I thought the article said there were some women too.........listen px, no one here believes Kasich hates blacks or browns.....k?  Thx.

The article says nowhere such a thing.

"Kasich, a former congressman, Wall Street executive, and Fox News personality, has hired 20 full-time agency directors to make up his cabinet. Of the 20, 16 are white men, four are white women. No African Americans, no Hispanics, no Asians."

If you're going to post sh**t, at least read it. 

I meant the second part of your answer, about hating blacks and browns.

The second part of my answer was me saying no one here on the Atlas truly believes what you're implying by your post.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 11:49:48 AM »

I don't imply anything. FTR, I don't believe he is racist. Just that there is a dearth of minorities at the Republican party.

Not news......but thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2011, 11:52:13 AM »

If he picked people whose names ended in "os" "as" or "ou", px would be doing backflips.  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2011, 03:21:16 PM »

It does seem suspect, but there is really no way of telling if it was on purpose.

He doesn't have anything in his past to suggest it was.  

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 08:58:39 AM »


Guilty til proven innocent seems to be your position on Kasich throughout the thread.  That's unusual for you......or am I misreading your posts?
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 09:25:31 AM »


Guilty til proven innocent seems to be your position on Kasich throughout the thread.  That's unusual for you......or am I misreading your posts?

What do you think I am finding Kasich guilty of? That, to me, is the big disagreement in this thread... whether this event has meaning, and then what that meaning is. I don't think this demonstrates Kasich is a racist, and I am sure this was not a deliberate decision, nor do I think he is a racist or presume I can get into his head to find out. I'm making a big deal out of this because I think this is how race matters today: in power relationships that evolve a certain way without any intent to cause harm, but which results in excluding people informally who were, until recently, excluded formally.

I think the issue of party is a real one and helps explain why Kasich has little or no professional contact with black people, but that elides the question as to why we have one political party, many of whose members identify with it because it is full of people just like them and not others. This is less of an issue in Ohio than it is in other places, but I think people are too quick to see racial divisions by party as a one-sided case of self-segregation without acknowledging the powerful dynamic at play when a majority behaves a certain way vs. the minority, or the appeal of being in an exclusive party.

This isn't about Kasich, to me, beyond a smaller point I'll identify below. He's not someone I have a problem with or has shown he'd deliberately seek to exclude people. It's about bigger social issues, and that's what I'm here to talk about. I think this situation is a sign of something unfortunate, and I think people saying "you're looking at race when I choose to see it" are being disingenuous given how much ink flies on the demographics board where we all carve up states according to race and everyone can see how informally segregated the lives of millions of Ohioans, and Massachusettsians, and Floridians, and everyone else are. I think Kasich has demonstrated with his Cabinet that he's not concerned with this as a problem, either because he doesn't think about it or because he actively disagrees that it's a problem to be acknowledged. I don't know which it is. But it's not the same as being actively racist.

Ok, friend, nice post........that clears it up.  Smiley
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