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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2019, 07:52:40 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.
You keep lying after I have already thoroughly defeated your claims going though several timestamps in the video. Just stop lying about the video. The kid did not step in front of Phillips, Phillips moved toward the kid.
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2019, 07:59:22 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.

When?

And where?

He certainly did not act threatened.  Not one bit.  And he certainly was not blocked from going anywhere.  These students did not impede his progress; he approached them. 



“It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’ ” Phillips recalled. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/20/it-was-getting-ugly-native-american-drummer-speaks-maga-hat-wearing-teens-who-surrounded-him/?utm_term=.af88d7cd6d65

There is one video that shows he was encircled around the same time as the moron smirk kid stepped up to him, and later, as Phillips steps back, the moron smirk kid steps forward to remain in Phillips' face.



Philips lied when he claimed the kids chanted "build the wall" at him and his group, so his statements should not automatically believed. There is a nearly 2 hr livestream recording of the scene that came out last night and it's never chanted in it. At 1:12:00 in the video, there is space to the right of the group of students to walk up the stairs to the memorial, Phillips passes by and walks right into the group of kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34
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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2019, 08:03:45 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.
You keep lying after I have already thoroughly defeated your claims going though several timestamps in the video. Just stop lying about the video. The kid did not step in front of Phillips, Phillips moved toward the kid.

You did nothing of the sort.  You are a liar.
I have you making false claims about stuff happening at specific time stamps that didn't occur, to stating Phillips never moved, then after being proved wrong stating he only moved sideways, then denying it again after showing the man behind him moved forward and since Phillips ends up in front of that man he also must have moved forward. To stating he never raised his drum to the kids face, to stating okay he raised his drum but only towards his own face. You are a lying scumbag and anyone who reads through that earlier post will see it.
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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2019, 08:10:12 PM »

Philips lied when he claimed the kids chanted "build the wall" at him and his group

No he didn't. Several people confirm that it happened.
Yet we have video of the entire thing, from an hour before Phillips got there to another half hour after it petered out, and no chant of "build the wall" in the video. Phillips lied.
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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2019, 08:25:12 PM »

Here is a statement by the smiling kid in the infamous photos. His detailed response matches what has been observed in the almost 2 hr long video of the event.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-student-video-issues-statement-his-side-story/2634008002/

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Another link to full video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34
And close up video between Phillips and the student:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG5ZB0fw1k
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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2019, 08:53:36 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.

You are an unhinged fool. All the video evidence points to this guy Phillips trying to create a scene not diffuse anything. He has already been found a liar as the "build the wall " chant never happened. He is a known anti-Trumper, and saw a bunch of MAGA hat kids and went up to them and banged his drum in their faces.

The group of black religious extremists who were yelling slurs at the students were the aggressors for most of the video. So if Phillips wanted to diffuse the situation why didn't he go toward them, you know the adults, and tell them to stop spewing slurs? Why walk into a group of students and bang a drum in their face?

Take a valium nutso.
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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2019, 08:55:37 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.

Pretty much this. Kid is a liar.

You guys look like such fools now that the evidence is coming out and showing the narrative is BS, and you fell for Fake News. Keep being mad, lol.
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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2019, 08:01:26 PM »

Point out where the kids actually mocked Phillips. Go through the video and point it out with time stamps and everything, detailing the description of each boy and what their actions were that should be considered mocking toward Native Americans. Then tell us what punishment that merits. Is it doxxing? Is threats of violence?

Because if you actually watch the video in context, you'd see Phillips came in banging his drum while the kids were already chanting and doing some sort of coordinated dance where they crouch down and then hop up. He comes up to their group banging a drum, so they began dancing and clapping to his drumbeat. They weren't threatening him, or menacing him or harassing him. They were smiling and playing along, with some of them trying to sing along with his chants at one point. Apparently you have access to some special rules where the proper etiquette is to sit quietly and bow your head while a native man bangs a drum or something. Please enlighten us all on what the proper etiquette is when a native american man crashes your school chant banging a drum.

And what do you guys plan to do with all the threats toward the kid at the center of this whole thing, who did absolutely nothing wrong? Does he still have a "punchable face" as said by Reza Azlan? Does he still need to be expelled from HS and banned from every college?

And what about the liar Nathan Phillips? He has now been proven to have lied multiple times and has been quoted describing the kids as "beasts" and the BHI racist homophobes as their "prey." He injected himself into this thing taking the side of the racist homophobic BHI guys when he bypassed them and instead went after the kids. Yet he gets interview after interview, with the media never challenging his statements.
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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2019, 09:02:06 PM »

Point out where the kids actually mocked Phillips. Go through the video and point it out with time stamps and everything, detailing the description of each boy and what their actions were that should be considered mocking toward Native Americans. Then tell us what punishment that merits. Is it doxxing? Is threats of violence?

Because if you actually watch the video in context, you'd see Phillips came in banging his drum while the kids were already chanting and doing some sort of coordinated dance where they crouch down and then hop up. He comes up to their group banging a drum, so they began dancing and clapping to his drumbeat. They weren't threatening him, or menacing him or harassing him. They were smiling and playing along, with some of them trying to sing along with his chants at one point. Apparently you have access to some special rules where the proper etiquette is to sit quietly and bow your head while a native man bangs a drum or something. Please enlighten us all on what the proper etiquette is when a native american man crashes your school chant banging a drum.

And what do you guys plan to do with all the threats toward the kid at the center of this whole thing, who did absolutely nothing wrong? Does he still have a "punchable face" as said by Reza Azlan? Does he still need to be expelled from HS and banned from every college?

And what about the liar Nathan Phillips? He has now been proven to have lied multiple times and has been quoted describing the kids as "beasts" and the BHI racist homophobes as their "prey." He injected himself into this thing taking the side of the racist homophobic BHI guys when he bypassed them and instead went after the kids. Yet he gets interview after interview, with the media never challenging his statements.

I'll make it even easier. The entire goddamn video involves those little s**** mocking the Indian chant and several them repeatedly doing tomahawk. But you are exactly the type of person I reference who will not under any circumstances short of across being burnt on some black families lawn acknowledge inappropriate racist Behavior. Ever. You can look through yourself and see exactly where the that type of Tomahawk bulsh**t went. And no I don't care if the Atlanta Braves did it 15 years ago.

Your illiteracy failed to pick up that there is a huge huge huge huge spectrum between raising their haunches in submission versus engaging in racist mob mentality. The fact that you only see two Alternatives just shows just how much your weight power attitude was trigger. Seriously, you've been an obnoxiously racist poster since you been on this forum. I will point out the exact time frames and you will come up with an excuse. I will point out that this is just singing la cucaracha at Latino Marchers, an over-the-top Fiddler on the Roof rendition to Jewish protesters, or pick any Minstrel song you want for black protesters. None of this s*** right down to giving you time numbers, if you really insist try early on, will convince you of Jack schitt because you will not be convinced. You fear liberalism and Democrats infinitely more than you do  racism and the alt right, and pick your friend's accordingly. because your view is not evidence-based need a protester got in some white Kids Safe space, and your white power instincts got triggered.

Mocking his chant or trying to sing along? Remember he came into their chant singing and banging a drum. Why should they suddenly stop singing and dancing for him?

Now point out the kids doing the tomahawk chop in the video with time stamps. I saw maybe three kids sort of do it briefly in the original video. Go through and point out all the ones who did it and when. Because you want to punish all of them for the actions of maybe 3 kids. Some of the kids were just dancing raising their hands in the air. A tomahawk chop is a specific move where your hand is straightened out and you swing it back and forth. Not a hand just being raised around in the air while you dance. Also tomahawk chops are not old things, I looked it up and they were doing it at Braves games this last season along with the chant. So maybe you can get those banned at sporting events since apparently it's the equivalent of the n-word now.

You have so much hatred for these kids. Teenage kids, who really didn't do anything to receive that level of hatred. It's amazing how much you keep trying to make them out to be the bag guys here. Why do you hate these kids really? To me it seems you saw the original story and saw a bunch of white kids and this fit into your bigoted worldview.
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« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2019, 03:39:39 AM »
« Edited: January 22, 2019, 03:43:26 AM by Jeffster »

Point out where the kids actually mocked Phillips. Go through the video and point it out with time stamps and everything, detailing the description of each boy and what their actions were that should be considered mocking toward Native Americans. Then tell us what punishment that merits. Is it doxxing? Is threats of violence?

Because if you actually watch the video in context, you'd see Phillips came in banging his drum while the kids were already chanting and doing some sort of coordinated dance where they crouch down and then hop up. He comes up to their group banging a drum, so they began dancing and clapping to his drumbeat. They weren't threatening him, or menacing him or harassing him. They were smiling and playing along, with some of them trying to sing along with his chants at one point. Apparently you have access to some special rules where the proper etiquette is to sit quietly and bow your head while a native man bangs a drum or something. Please enlighten us all on what the proper etiquette is when a native american man crashes your school chant banging a drum.

And what do you guys plan to do with all the threats toward the kid at the center of this whole thing, who did absolutely nothing wrong? Does he still have a "punchable face" as said by Reza Azlan? Does he still need to be expelled from HS and banned from every college?

And what about the liar Nathan Phillips? He has now been proven to have lied multiple times and has been quoted describing the kids as "beasts" and the BHI racist homophobes as their "prey." He injected himself into this thing taking the side of the racist homophobic BHI guys when he bypassed them and instead went after the kids. Yet he gets interview after interview, with the media never challenging his statements.

I'll make it even easier. The entire goddamn video involves those little s**** mocking the Indian chant and several them repeatedly doing tomahawk. But you are exactly the type of person I reference who will not under any circumstances short of across being burnt on some black families lawn acknowledge inappropriate racist Behavior. Ever. You can look through yourself and see exactly where the that type of Tomahawk bulsh**t went. And no I don't care if the Atlanta Braves did it 15 years ago.

Your illiteracy failed to pick up that there is a huge huge huge huge spectrum between raising their haunches in submission versus engaging in racist mob mentality. The fact that you only see two Alternatives just shows just how much your weight power attitude was trigger. Seriously, you've been an obnoxiously racist poster since you been on this forum. I will point out the exact time frames and you will come up with an excuse. I will point out that this is just singing la cucaracha at Latino Marchers, an over-the-top Fiddler on the Roof rendition to Jewish protesters, or pick any Minstrel song you want for black protesters. None of this s*** right down to giving you time numbers, if you really insist try early on, will convince you of Jack schitt because you will not be convinced. You fear liberalism and Democrats infinitely more than you do  racism and the alt right, and pick your friend's accordingly. because your view is not evidence-based need a protester got in some white Kids Safe space, and your white power instincts got triggered.

Mocking his chant or trying to sing along? Remember he came into their chant singing and banging a drum. Why should they suddenly stop singing and dancing for him?

Now point out the kids doing the tomahawk chop in the video with time stamps. I saw maybe three kids sort of do it briefly in the original video. Go through and point out all the ones who did it and when. Because you want to punish all of them for the actions of maybe 3 kids. Some of the kids were just dancing raising their hands in the air. A tomahawk chop is a specific move where your hand is straightened out and you swing it back and forth. Not a hand just being raised around in the air while you dance. Also tomahawk chops are not old things, I looked it up and they were doing it at Braves games this last season along with the chant. So maybe you can get those banned at sporting events since apparently it's the equivalent of the n-word now.

You have so much hatred for these kids. Teenage kids, who really didn't do anything to receive that level of hatred. It's amazing how much you keep trying to make them out to be the bag guys here. Why do you hate these kids really? To me it seems you saw the original story and saw a bunch of white kids and this fit into your bigoted worldview.

Bigoted worldview period against white kids....

Yeah, you caught me there dude. Everyday I look at my two sons and think about how much I cannot trust those little white kids.

You know. I can only hope other people read this, because after reading how grossly triggered you have been by this whole thing, just reinforces what a white power little whatever you really are.

Now if you excuse me, I have to go discriminate against my two sons. Goddamn cracker ass honkies!
I shudder to think of the psychological damage you are inflicting on your sons to have a father that holds so much hate for the kids in this incident just because they happen to be white. Your level of outrage for the racist and homophobic BHI men who started the whole thing, and for the lying Nathan Phillips and his harassment of Nick Sandmann, and the racist Native American man who was with Mr. Phillips, pales in comparison for the pure outrage you have spewed toward these kids. Kids dancing around to the drumbeat and chanting along were the least offensive thing compared to what these other individuals did.

So the big question from all of this is why have people like you, and why have people in the media, decided that white teenagers should be held to a higher standard of decorum than grown up black men, and grown up Native American men? Why their actions were somehow worse than what those other people did, and why they deserve to be targeted for doxxing and threats of violence and have their lives ruined while the others get ignored or even praised?
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« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2019, 12:43:26 PM »

Point out where the kids actually mocked Phillips. Go through the video and point it out with time stamps and everything, detailing the description of each boy and what their actions were that should be considered mocking toward Native Americans. Then tell us what punishment that merits. Is it doxxing? Is threats of violence?

Because if you actually watch the video in context, you'd see Phillips came in banging his drum while the kids were already chanting and doing some sort of coordinated dance where they crouch down and then hop up. He comes up to their group banging a drum, so they began dancing and clapping to his drumbeat. They weren't threatening him, or menacing him or harassing him. They were smiling and playing along, with some of them trying to sing along with his chants at one point. Apparently you have access to some special rules where the proper etiquette is to sit quietly and bow your head while a native man bangs a drum or something. Please enlighten us all on what the proper etiquette is when a native american man crashes your school chant banging a drum.

And what do you guys plan to do with all the threats toward the kid at the center of this whole thing, who did absolutely nothing wrong? Does he still have a "punchable face" as said by Reza Azlan? Does he still need to be expelled from HS and banned from every college?

And what about the liar Nathan Phillips? He has now been proven to have lied multiple times and has been quoted describing the kids as "beasts" and the BHI racist homophobes as their "prey." He injected himself into this thing taking the side of the racist homophobic BHI guys when he bypassed them and instead went after the kids. Yet he gets interview after interview, with the media never challenging his statements.

I'll make it even easier. The entire goddamn video involves those little s**** mocking the Indian chant and several them repeatedly doing tomahawk. But you are exactly the type of person I reference who will not under any circumstances short of across being burnt on some black families lawn acknowledge inappropriate racist Behavior. Ever. You can look through yourself and see exactly where the that type of Tomahawk bulsh**t went. And no I don't care if the Atlanta Braves did it 15 years ago.

Your illiteracy failed to pick up that there is a huge huge huge huge spectrum between raising their haunches in submission versus engaging in racist mob mentality. The fact that you only see two Alternatives just shows just how much your weight power attitude was trigger. Seriously, you've been an obnoxiously racist poster since you been on this forum. I will point out the exact time frames and you will come up with an excuse. I will point out that this is just singing la cucaracha at Latino Marchers, an over-the-top Fiddler on the Roof rendition to Jewish protesters, or pick any Minstrel song you want for black protesters. None of this s*** right down to giving you time numbers, if you really insist try early on, will convince you of Jack schitt because you will not be convinced. You fear liberalism and Democrats infinitely more than you do  racism and the alt right, and pick your friend's accordingly. because your view is not evidence-based need a protester got in some white Kids Safe space, and your white power instincts got triggered.

Mocking his chant or trying to sing along? Remember he came into their chant singing and banging a drum. Why should they suddenly stop singing and dancing for him?

Now point out the kids doing the tomahawk chop in the video with time stamps. I saw maybe three kids sort of do it briefly in the original video. Go through and point out all the ones who did it and when. Because you want to punish all of them for the actions of maybe 3 kids. Some of the kids were just dancing raising their hands in the air. A tomahawk chop is a specific move where your hand is straightened out and you swing it back and forth. Not a hand just being raised around in the air while you dance. Also tomahawk chops are not old things, I looked it up and they were doing it at Braves games this last season along with the chant. So maybe you can get those banned at sporting events since apparently it's the equivalent of the n-word now.

You have so much hatred for these kids. Teenage kids, who really didn't do anything to receive that level of hatred. It's amazing how much you keep trying to make them out to be the bag guys here. Why do you hate these kids really? To me it seems you saw the original story and saw a bunch of white kids and this fit into your bigoted worldview.

Bigoted worldview period against white kids....

Yeah, you caught me there dude. Everyday I look at my two sons and think about how much I cannot trust those little white kids.

You know. I can only hope other people read this, because after reading how grossly triggered you have been by this whole thing, just reinforces what a white power little whatever you really are.

Now if you excuse me, I have to go discriminate against my two sons. Goddamn cracker ass honkies!
I shudder to think of the psychological damage you are inflicting on your sons to have a father that holds so much hate for the kids in this incident just because they happen to be white. Your level of outrage for the racist and homophobic BHI men who started the whole thing, and for the lying Nathan Phillips and his harassment of Nick Sandmann, and the racist Native American man who was with Mr. Phillips, pales in comparison for the pure outrage you have spewed toward these kids. Kids dancing around to the drumbeat and chanting along were the least offensive thing compared to what these other individuals did.

So the big question from all of this is why have people like you, and why have people in the media, decided that white teenagers should be held to a higher standard of decorum than grown up black men, and grown up Native American men? Why their actions were somehow worse than what those other people did, and why they deserve to be targeted for doxxing and threats of violence and have their lives ruined while the others get ignored or even praised?

I know man. Isn't it crazy? I look at those kids and I see my own dirty little white boys in their faces. God how I hate their whiteness. Well, I see in their faces my kids if their kids were raised by complete douchebags didn't teach them about living in a world with people different than them.

It's a good thing the world has people like you to defend white people from getting tromped all over as usual.

And what do you mean the BH I started the whole thing. They're being assholes had absolutely zero to do with these kids reactions to a totally separate individual. Or do you just lump all non-white people together as a great anti-white Alliance in your mind? No, don't bother asking that. You're posting history shows that you get oddly triggered anytime a white person gets accused of racism. Must happen to you a lot
You obviously haven't watched the full video then. It's clear to any sane person they were shouting slurs to people all day, and then targeted those kids while they were waiting for their bus to arrive. The kids decided to engage in school chants to drown out the racist and homophobic language being yelled at them. It was at that point that Phillips decided to crash their school chants by getting in the middle of them, and go up to the kids while banging his drum instead of going up to the nasty BHI men. It was Phillips who went to up to Nick Sandmann and raised a drum inches away from his face and banged it repeatedly white chanting. It was Phillips who in interviews has referred to the kids as beasts, and the BHI guys as their prey. It was the other Native American man with Phillips who told the kid who was born in this country to go back to Europe. Yet the media misrepresented what happened, claiming it was the kids who started it and were harassing the Native Americans, and it was people like you that basically called for their heads, while ignoring the actions and bigoted statements of others.

Again why are the students being given so much focus and receiving so much hatred when the other people in this story behaved much worse?
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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2019, 04:00:16 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?
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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2019, 05:11:47 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

You are so full of crap its hilarious. You obviously haven't watched the full length video, it's clear as day now. You just want to keep attacking these kids you sick loser. You are completely ignoring the BHI's role in this story. It is not a separate incident you troll, they were the one's who started the whole thing as seen int the video. And the American people need to be informed about this hate group. I never heard of them before this, and I'd be surprised if most Americans had heard of them before this as well. So where are the articles and TV news reports on them?

And again, stop ignoring the other question. Why have the bad actions of the native american group not been called out and why have the left leaning media refused to expose the lies of that scumbag Nathan Phillips? They were not victims, stop pretending that they were victims here.
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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2019, 05:32:13 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

I don't get Jeffster and FuzzyBear's obsession and hard-on for the unrelated conduct of the Black Israelites in this occurrence.
They keep injecting that group (who by the way, acted like complete f***ing morons) into this story for pure distraction of what really took place between the idiotic MAGA hat wearing teenagers and the Native American.

The BHI were seen at the start mocking the Native Americans and getting into verbal arguments with several of them. As the Covington kids began arriving at the steps for their meetup, the BHI guy yells at the Native Americans asking why are you arguing with us why don't you go after those MAGA hat wearing kids? This is important, because when the Native American group returns they don't go after the BHI guys but instead are lead by Phillips right into the kids group. The reason the kids were in the middle of doing a school chant was in reaction to the slurs being yelled at them from the BHI group. It was the Native Americans who then crashed the students school chant and dance, so they began dancing to the drumbeat. How are they supposed to know that when a Native American drummer crashes your school chant you're supposed to not dance or clap or try to sing along?

And you guys focused on the kids while ignoring all the racist stuff being yelled at them by the BHI and the Native American.
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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2019, 05:41:46 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

I don't get Jeffster and FuzzyBear's obsession and hard-on for the unrelated conduct of the Black Israelites in this occurrence.
They keep injecting that group (who by the way, acted like complete f***ing morons) into this story for pure distraction of what really took place between the idiotic MAGA hat wearing teenagers and the Native American.

The BHI were seen at the start mocking the Native Americans and getting into verbal arguments with several of them. As the Covington kids began arriving at the steps for their meetup, the BHI guy yells at the Native Americans asking why are you arguing with us why don't you go after those MAGA hat wearing kids? This is important, because when the Native American group returns they don't go after the BHI guys but instead are lead by Phillips right into the kids group. The reason the kids were in the middle of doing a school chant was in reaction to the slurs being yelled at them from the BHI group. It was the Native Americans who then crashed the students school chant and dance, so they began dancing to the drumbeat. How are they supposed to know that when a Native American drummer crashes your school chant you're supposed to not dance or clap or try to sing along?

And you guys focused on the kids while ignoring all the racist stuff being yelled at them by the BHI and the Native American.

So you dance along with the Native Americans by mocking them and doing a tomahawk move with one's arm/hand.
Got it. Sounds like great advice.
How do they know it's mocking, since it's still done at sporting events?
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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2019, 05:42:51 PM »

Again, this is the most important point, you guys are showing so much hatred for these kids for at worst what could be seen as being culturally insensitive towards Native Americans while ignoring blatant racism being yelled at these kids. And the mob on your side of this story decide to dox and threaten these kids for it.
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« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2019, 06:03:30 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

I don't get Jeffster and FuzzyBear's obsession and hard-on for the unrelated conduct of the Black Israelites in this occurrence.
They keep injecting that group (who by the way, acted like complete f***ing morons) into this story for pure distraction of what really took place between the idiotic MAGA hat wearing teenagers and the Native American.

The BHI were seen at the start mocking the Native Americans and getting into verbal arguments with several of them. As the Covington kids began arriving at the steps for their meetup, the BHI guy yells at the Native Americans asking why are you arguing with us why don't you go after those MAGA hat wearing kids? This is important, because when the Native American group returns they don't go after the BHI guys but instead are lead by Phillips right into the kids group. The reason the kids were in the middle of doing a school chant was in reaction to the slurs being yelled at them from the BHI group. It was the Native Americans who then crashed the students school chant and dance, so they began dancing to the drumbeat. How are they supposed to know that when a Native American drummer crashes your school chant you're supposed to not dance or clap or try to sing along?

And you guys focused on the kids while ignoring all the racist stuff being yelled at them by the BHI and the Native American.

So you dance along with the Native Americans by mocking them and doing a tomahawk move with one's arm/hand.
Got it. Sounds like great advice.

How do they know it's mocking, since it's still done at sporting events?

Oh you are right.
I forgot that the Native American in the video was throwing a baseball and playing sports all while singing/drumming to a Native custom. Silly me.

Way to ignore the point. We're talking about teenagers, who probably have very little knowledge of Native American culture. But I'd bet most of those boys probably follow sports in some capacity so they were aware of tomahawk chops and chants being used at sporting events. Again, how do you know that these kids were aware that it's offensive to Native Americans?

And I'll say it another time, you guys are showing so much hatred for these kids for at worst what could be seen as being culturally insensitive towards Native Americans while ignoring blatant racism being yelled at these kids. And the mob on your side of this story decided to dox and threaten these kids for it.
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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2019, 06:12:19 PM »


Because after the initial claim that a group of MAGA hat wearing kids targeted and harassed Native Americans turned out to be a lie, the people who are still so dead set on hating these kids are looking for any justification to keep hating them. Plus there is the digital lynch mob that was sicced on these kids by the false reporting, and rather than admit wrongdoing some are doubling down.
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« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2019, 06:15:26 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2019, 06:18:27 PM by Jeffster »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

I don't get Jeffster and FuzzyBear's obsession and hard-on for the unrelated conduct of the Black Israelites in this occurrence.
They keep injecting that group (who by the way, acted like complete f***ing morons) into this story for pure distraction of what really took place between the idiotic MAGA hat wearing teenagers and the Native American.

The BHI were seen at the start mocking the Native Americans and getting into verbal arguments with several of them. As the Covington kids began arriving at the steps for their meetup, the BHI guy yells at the Native Americans asking why are you arguing with us why don't you go after those MAGA hat wearing kids? This is important, because when the Native American group returns they don't go after the BHI guys but instead are lead by Phillips right into the kids group. The reason the kids were in the middle of doing a school chant was in reaction to the slurs being yelled at them from the BHI group. It was the Native Americans who then crashed the students school chant and dance, so they began dancing to the drumbeat. How are they supposed to know that when a Native American drummer crashes your school chant you're supposed to not dance or clap or try to sing along?

And you guys focused on the kids while ignoring all the racist stuff being yelled at them by the BHI and the Native American.

So you dance along with the Native Americans by mocking them and doing a tomahawk move with one's arm/hand.
Got it. Sounds like great advice.

How do they know it's mocking, since it's still done at sporting events?

Oh you are right.
I forgot that the Native American in the video was throwing a baseball and playing sports all while singing/drumming to a Native custom. Silly me.

Way to ignore the point. We're talking about teenagers, who probably have very little knowledge of Native American culture. But I'd bet most of those boys probably follow sports in some capacity so they were aware of tomahawk chops and chants being used at sporting events. Again, how do you know that these kids were aware that it's offensive to Native Americans?

And I'll say it another time, you guys are showing so much hatred for these kids for at worst what could be seen as being culturally insensitive towards Native Americans while ignoring blatant racism being yelled at these kids. And the mob on your side of this story decided to dox and threaten these kids for it.

As you just wrote, all we are doing is telling you that these MAGA hat wearing punks were "insensitive towards Native Americans," during this incident.
They also said sexually insensitive comments (about rape, no less) to young girls at the same location (watch the new video).
End of story.
Is it really that difficult to understand?
One kid says a crude rape joke, and immediately after someone says "he doesn't go to Covington." (Watch the new video).
And you guys are still more mad at ignorant kids than the grown up people in the video who showed actual racism.
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« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2019, 06:39:01 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

I don't get Jeffster and FuzzyBear's obsession and hard-on for the unrelated conduct of the Black Israelites in this occurrence.
They keep injecting that group (who by the way, acted like complete f***ing morons) into this story for pure distraction of what really took place between the idiotic MAGA hat wearing teenagers and the Native American.

The BHI were seen at the start mocking the Native Americans and getting into verbal arguments with several of them. As the Covington kids began arriving at the steps for their meetup, the BHI guy yells at the Native Americans asking why are you arguing with us why don't you go after those MAGA hat wearing kids? This is important, because when the Native American group returns they don't go after the BHI guys but instead are lead by Phillips right into the kids group. The reason the kids were in the middle of doing a school chant was in reaction to the slurs being yelled at them from the BHI group. It was the Native Americans who then crashed the students school chant and dance, so they began dancing to the drumbeat. How are they supposed to know that when a Native American drummer crashes your school chant you're supposed to not dance or clap or try to sing along?

And you guys focused on the kids while ignoring all the racist stuff being yelled at them by the BHI and the Native American.

So you dance along with the Native Americans by mocking them and doing a tomahawk move with one's arm/hand.
Got it. Sounds like great advice.

How do they know it's mocking, since it's still done at sporting events?

Oh you are right.
I forgot that the Native American in the video was throwing a baseball and playing sports all while singing/drumming to a Native custom. Silly me.

Way to ignore the point. We're talking about teenagers, who probably have very little knowledge of Native American culture. But I'd bet most of those boys probably follow sports in some capacity so they were aware of tomahawk chops and chants being used at sporting events. Again, how do you know that these kids were aware that it's offensive to Native Americans?

And I'll say it another time, you guys are showing so much hatred for these kids for at worst what could be seen as being culturally insensitive towards Native Americans while ignoring blatant racism being yelled at these kids. And the mob on your side of this story decided to dox and threaten these kids for it.

As you just wrote, all we are doing is telling you that these MAGA hat wearing punks were "insensitive towards Native Americans," during this incident.
They also said sexually insensitive comments (about rape, no less) to young girls at the same location (watch the new video).
End of story.
Is it really that difficult to understand?
One kid says a crude rape joke, and immediately after someone says "he doesn't go to Covington." (Watch the new video).
And you guys are still more mad at ignorant kids than the grown up people in the video who showed actual racism.
The child said that it isn't rape if you enjoy it.  Are you implying that rape is enjoyable?  That's pretty sick.  
What are you talking about? I said it was a crude rape joke, I never said I agreed with it or that rape was enjoyable. I don't agree with what he said, and I didn't find it funny. The point was someone else in the video said that the kid who made that joke did not go to Covington.
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« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2019, 07:09:57 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

You are so full of crap its hilarious. You obviously haven't watched the full length video, it's clear as day now. You just want to keep attacking these kids you sick loser. You are completely ignoring the BHI's role in this story. It is not a separate incident you troll, they were the one's who started the whole thing as seen int the video. And the American people need to be informed about this hate group. I never heard of them before this, and I'd be surprised if most Americans had heard of them before this as well. So where are the articles and TV news reports on them?

And again, stop ignoring the other question. Why have the bad actions of the native american group not been called out and why have the left leaning media refused to expose the lies of that scumbag Nathan Phillips? They were not victims, stop pretending that they were victims here.

First, this sick loser posted more facts in his post than you ever have. Go on and point out to us how bhi and the Native Americans together teamed up as some anti-whitey Super Friends group to team up on the Covington Catholic kids.

I'll repost it because you obviously didn't read it:

The BHI were seen at the start mocking the Native Americans and getting into verbal arguments with several of them. As the Covington kids began arriving at the steps for their meetup, the BHI guy yells at the Native Americans asking why are you arguing with us why don't you go after those MAGA hat wearing kids? This is important, because when the Native American group returns they don't go after the BHI guys but instead are lead by Phillips right into the kids group. The reason the kids were in the middle of doing a school chant was in reaction to the slurs being yelled at them from the BHI group. It was the Native Americans who then crashed the students school chant and dance, so they began dancing to the drumbeat. How are they supposed to know that when a Native American drummer crashes your school chant you're supposed to not dance or clap or try to sing along?

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Now I know you haven't watched the videos. The Native American man standing right next to Phillips as part of his group yelled at a kid to go back to Europe, and that it wasn't his land. At least watch the videos before you spout off, because you just look ignorant on this topic.
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« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2019, 07:35:05 PM »

For people who are so aghast at the mocking of Native Americans, you guys have been real silent about the Black Hebrew Israeli guys who started this whole thing. Just watch the long video and see all the mocking insults they shouted at Native Americans. Much worse stuff than dancing to a drumbeat and chanting along. So why hasn't the media done several articles and spent hours of airtime talking about them? Why are people like you still going crazy over these teenagers, while ignoring the BHI guys?

And why are the Native Americans in this story getting a pass? There were racist comments coming from their group yet it's ignored by your side. And the more stuff that keeps coming out about this Phillips guys the more he looks like a huge lying scumbag. The "Recon Ranger" Marine refrigerator mechanic that was stateside during the entire Vietnam War and went AWOL multiple times, and got discharged at the rank of private. But he's had no problem allowing people to assume he's a Vietnam Veteran many times in the past, not just a Vietnam Era Veteran. Also talked about being spit upon after returning from Vietnam in a past interview. Why was he given a platform and held up as some innocent victim of harassment at first, then as some courageous figure of peace after the initial story fell apart? The guy is a political agitator who lies all the time, and was caught lying about several parts of this specific incident. Why is the left leaning media covering up for this guy and doubling down on attacking these kids?

No one is ignoring the bhi. That is A Fantasy Made Up in your mind. And absolutely no one is remotely defending them. If they are being ignored, it's because there is nothing noteworthy about half a dozen members of a racist a****** organization being racist assholes. It's the equivalent of a dog bites man story or observing that water is wet. But again, quit spouting off the delusional fantasy that people are ignoring them, let alone defending them. After all, why would Democrats defend an organization which is so adamantly opposed to the Democratic party?

Now where you really need to be called into account is this garbage about bhi starting the whole thing. What the hell did bhi have to do with the Native American protesters and the Covington Catholic students response? They are two separate courances that have no relation to one another.

Sorry to ruin your victimization party, bit you are not going to find a leftist or democrat on this forum who thinks bhi was any better than those noxious bigoted kids. The only one here minimizing, using, or Worse even normalizing racist behavior, is your side.

You are so full of crap its hilarious. You obviously haven't watched the full length video, it's clear as day now. You just want to keep attacking these kids you sick loser. You are completely ignoring the BHI's role in this story. It is not a separate incident you troll, they were the one's who started the whole thing as seen int the video. And the American people need to be informed about this hate group. I never heard of them before this, and I'd be surprised if most Americans had heard of them before this as well. So where are the articles and TV news reports on them?

And again, stop ignoring the other question. Why have the bad actions of the native american group not been called out and why have the left leaning media refused to expose the lies of that scumbag Nathan Phillips? They were not victims, stop pretending that they were victims here.

First, this sick loser posted more facts in his post than you ever have. Go on and point out to us how bhi and the Native Americans together teamed up as some anti-whitey Super Friends group to team up on the Covington Catholic kids.

Secondly, what bad actions by the Native Americans are you talking about? At absolute worst, what's his name Phillips invaded the white Kids Safe space calmly chanting and drumming. So f****** what? What kind of white power notion does it take for that to suddenly legitimize those jackasses engaging in proud and overt racist mockery?

Badger never has any idea what he's talking about.  If he can't see the racism in the speech expressed by the African American and Native American adults, then he is truly lost in this debate.  A white guy tells a black guy to go back to Africa, and he screams and cries racism.  A Native American, like the one in this case, tells white children to go back to Europe and he justifies racism.  Absolutely zero integrity.  He has no idea what racism means.  I do, because my grandparents and uncle told me about it in NAZI Germany.  They told me about slavery.  I learned about hate crimes from family members that had half their family wiped out.  And this guy is going to tell me about his BS perspective about racism.  

Chanting along with someone that's beating a drum is not racism.  Smirking when Native America beats a drum in front of your face is not racism.  I'm sure Badger would think that a white man in revolutionary war garb beating a drum in the face of a smirking Native American is racism.  BS double standard racism.  He doesn't see the bad action of the Native American because he's a racist.  He doesn't see the innocence of the white children, because he's a racist.  Not even I can overlook racism by white people yet Badger considers me a racist, and himself an SJW.  Sad.  

That is, not remotely close to anything I have posted. It's actually kind of the exact opposite regarding Phi and literally everything I and every other left-of-center person here, or everything everyone has posted about them. I'm not sure if you're stupid or a liar by missing the fact that I among others have said this literally over a dozen times in this thread alone. Please clarify which.

Beyond that, I'm done. You and jeffster have thoroughly demonstrated your white power Bona fides in this thread. Strap on them Doc Martens with the red laces I assume is your next plan.

You and jester have been massively triggered by this affront to white childhood from day one. There is no facts that will sway you, no logic that will make you reconsider, nor any discussion worth having four type of your ilk. You are a waste of time in bandwidth. It's disappointing to see some thoughtful conservatives like fuzzy bear actually starting to fall for this because a virtue signaling and not being comfortable with who's taking what side in this late is Battle the culture War. That's disappointing, but for people like him with a good heart, temporary - - usually.

People like you and Jeff's true though? Absolutely useless outside of someone needing to borrow would like to set a cross on fire. The only happy thought in my mind is that in the post Trump age racist Behavior will be a cause of Shame among most people. Not for people like you, of course, no, you will be an unrepentant race Warrior until The Bitter End, of This I have no doubt.

Good day sir!.
You just got so thoroughly beaten because you either didn't bother to watch the videos or you are purposely excusing racism because it's coming from persons of color. Nothing in my post is advocacy of any sort or racism or white power crap. When I first heard this story on twitter in my feed, I clicked on one of the trending topics and saw the first video I posted in this thread on page 1 that showed the original story of kids targeting Native Americans and harassing them was a lie. I tried to point it out to several of you guys right from the start that this was a fake news story. But many of you ignored me and now many of you look like fools.

Also, I never claimed all the kids were little angels or anything. My main concern was over Nick Sandmann, since he was the focal point at the beginning and receiving a ton of hate and threats when he actually didn't do anything wrong. I've admitted that maybe some of the other kids might have been culturally insensitive out of ignorance, but that is not racism, and that does not justify the anger and hatred and threats they are receiving. And I'm still curious why the blatant racism and lies from the other people in this story have been ignored?
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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2019, 12:04:11 AM »

These students have the potential to be even worse than Kavanaugh. They have all the potential to turn into a Lifetime movie prototype of an abuser, stalker, etc. Future Terrors of America.

This statement is simply sick.

Pathologically so.

But I could be wrong.  What do you think that the Black Hebrew Israelites in the crowd have the potential to become?  If you won't comment on that, I'd really like to know that as well.  Because it would be interesting to find out why you can label 16 year old kids as Future Terrorists, but can't comment about a group labeled a Black Supremacist Group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Fuzzy. NO. ONE. IS. DEFENDING. THE. BLACK. HEBREW. ISRAELITES! NO. ONE. IN. AMERICA. IS. BOTHERED. BY. HOW. THOSE. KIDS. REACTED. TO. THE. BHI! THE. BHI. IS. NOT. AT ISSUE. HERE. AT. ALL!

The issue is how a group of privileged conservative teenagers probably mocked a Native American in a grossly racist fashion for the crime of his entering their safe space, believing dressing in blackface a flashing white power symbols at visiting black athletes, proudly crowd about how it's not rape if you enjoy it, and---most important of all-- that close to half the country is excusing or normalizing their behavior, from the president of United States on down./b]

Just when I thought I was out, you pull me back in. Seriously, after I just destroyed you in my previous posts, and instead of responding to it, you ran away screaming "Good day sir." Now you're back posting more misinformation. What is the matter with you?

I showed you how the BHI was connected to the story and you ignored it. I showed you the racist comments from the Native American and you ignored it. Now you'll probably ignore this next part.
 
There is a difference between blackface, a style of make-up used to represent a caricature of a black person, and painting your body for a blackout, which is done at sporting events. Those who use body paint don't always do the head, but it's not unheard of, and it's a far cry from a racist caricature of a black person. I can show you photos of other people doing it at sporting events if you want. The hand gesture is a play on 3 pt goggles, but instead of putting them against your face you raise your hands up, it is not a racist gesture. I can show you photos of professional NBA players doing it if you want. The rape comment was by one kid, and immediately after he says it you can hear someone say in the video "he doesn't go to covington."

Why are you doing this? Why do you want to keep embarrassing yourself on here? Just give it up and go to sleep.
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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2019, 03:05:27 AM »

Proof Nathan Phillips lied about being a Vietnam Vet, being "honorably" discharged, and serving "in theater."

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1088285433673515009

Why did the media take this guys word without doing any sort of background check? It's been internet sleuths that tracked down these videos and got a copy of his DD 214 form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIXIzvyAlLA
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