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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2018, 04:25:14 PM »

UWS,
Susana Martinez is from New Mexico not Alaska.
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2016
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« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2018, 12:26:39 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2018, 01:03:35 PM by 2016 »

CNN Anchors & Panel at the Republican National Convention 2020 in Las Vegas

described

- The first two Days of the RNC as very successful for the President
- gave the FLOTUS an A+ Rating for her Speech last Night
- John King replied "No" when he was asked if Senator Sanders had a chance in November
- In Anticipation of VP Haley's Speech tonight CNN Analyst Gloria Borger deems the Speech as the most important in Haleys Political Career quote:

"She needs to strike the right tone in between supporting the President and introducing herself into a wider Audience as such opportunities are very rare. She stood mostly in the background of President Rubio during the last 3 1/2 years since the Republican majority in both houses of Congress is very strong. His Presidency was thus far a pretty unusual one as usually the VP is often sent to Capitol Hill to make deals with Congressional Leaders. That was not the case here as Republican Leaders in Congress notably Speaker Ryan & Senate Majority Leader McConnell introduced the Bipartisan Bills to the Democrats. Haley is just 48 years old and will be a Major Contender for the 2024 Republican Nomination should she chose to run".

- CNN Election Anchor Wolf Blitzer announced during the RNC that Election Night 2020 will be his last one and he will hand over the Keys to Anderson Cooper & Jake Tapper.
- CNN also announced that Senior White House Correspondent Jim Acosta will serve as Political Analyst after the 2020 Presidential Election alongside Gloria Borger. He will be replaced by Michelle Kosinski at the White House.
- Brianna Keilar will serve as Congressional Correspondent alongside Dana Bash.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2018, 03:14:42 PM »

This timeline is incredibly unrealistic, having the president's party gain 11 seats in the Senate does not happen, no matter what. Also, Rubio wouldn't be so popular and be the beloved Washington/Lincoln you portray him as.

Rubio was labelled as the 2nd Ronald Reagan so why wouldn't he be that popular?

This Timeline is actually very close to the original Ronald Reagan Presidency and that is what UWS probably wants.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2018, 07:00:09 PM »

This timeline is incredibly unrealistic, having the president's party gain 11 seats in the Senate does not happen, no matter what. Also, Rubio wouldn't be so popular and be the beloved Washington/Lincoln you portray him as.

Rubio was labelled as the 2nd Ronald Reagan so why wouldn't he be that popular?

This Timeline is actually very close to the original Ronald Reagan Presidency and that is what UWS probably wants.
Ok, UWS sockpuppet, did Reagan ever gain 11 seats in the Senate in his midteem? No

Besides, Rubio is a slime and a boring, lying politician. He would actually lose to Hillary.

Actually Rubio wins because he does better among Hispanics than Trump, which helps him to win Colorado and Nevada. And the reason how he won Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania is that promised to promote free trade while cutting taxes on manufacturing industry in order to avoid job losses and to make free trade fairer for American workers. Rubio also won Pennsylvania by promising to end the War on Coal and to promote clean coal technology since Pennsylvania's is, for an important part, based on coal.

So this scenario is quite realistic.
THE PRESIDENT'S PARTY DOES NOT GAIN 11 SEATS IN THE SENATE IN A MIDTERM, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.

And yet the Democrats had so many seats to defend in deeply conservative states like Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana and West Virginia. And the Republicans recruited several strong candidates in the toss-ups states like John Kasich in Ohio, Rick Scott in Florida, Susana Martinez in New Mexico, etc.

So don't lecture me about being realistic.

Take it to him UWS.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2018, 07:01:55 PM »

This timeline is incredibly unrealistic, having the president's party gain 11 seats in the Senate does not happen, no matter what. Also, Rubio wouldn't be so popular and be the beloved Washington/Lincoln you portray him as.

Rubio was labelled as the 2nd Ronald Reagan so why wouldn't he be that popular?

This Timeline is actually very close to the original Ronald Reagan Presidency and that is what UWS probably wants.
Ok, UWS sockpuppet, did Reagan ever gain 11 seats in the Senate in his midteem? No

Besides, Rubio is a slime and a boring, lying politician. He would actually lose to Hillary.

Actually Rubio wins because he does better among Hispanics than Trump, which helps him to win Colorado and Nevada. And the reason how he won Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Pennsylvania is that promised to promote free trade while cutting taxes on manufacturing industry in order to avoid job losses and to make free trade fairer for American workers. Rubio also won Pennsylvania by promising to end the War on Coal and to promote clean coal technology since Pennsylvania's is, for an important part, based on coal.

So this scenario is quite realistic.
THE PRESIDENT'S PARTY DOES NOT GAIN 11 SEATS IN THE SENATE IN A MIDTERM, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.

And yet the Democrats had so many seats to defend in deeply conservative states like Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana and West Virginia. And the Republicans recruited several strong candidates in the toss-ups states like John Kasich in Ohio, Rick Scott in Florida, Susana Martinez in New Mexico, etc.

So don't lecture me about being realistic.
THE MAP DOES NOT MATTER, 11-SEAT PICKUP IN A PRESIDENT'S MIDTERM NEVER HAPPENS!!!

2-3 maybe, BUT NOT 11!!!

And yet Obama lost 8 Senate Seats in the 2014 MidTerms...
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2018, 03:45:14 PM »

2020 Electoral College Map polling

Initial polls conducted in late July and in early August showed that President Rubio got a strong convention bounce after the 2020 Republican National Convention in Las Vegas where he highlighted the record of his presidency such as a strong economy, strong national security and peace and immigration reform while slamming his Democratic opponent Bernie Sanders on his « job-killing agenda » that would increase taxes and the size of government and on his « weak foreign policy » that would gut the military and aweaken national security. He increased his national lead by 4 percentage points from 56 % to 60 % over Bernie Sanders' 39 %. Due to his strong showing in the polls, the President's re-election campaign decided to increase their efforts in usual Democratic strongholds that John Kerry won by only 10 percentage points or less in 2004 which includes the state of Washington, Oregon, California, Illinois and New Jersey, which could result to the first landslide since 1988.



Marco Rubio : 359 great electors
Bernie Sanders : 74 great electors
Undecided : 105 great electors

Nationwide opinion polling
Marco Rubio : 60 %
Bernie Sanders : 39 %
Undecided : 1 %

Statewide opinion polling

Iowa
Marco Rubio : 54 %
Bernie Sanders : 39 %
Undecided : 7 %

Wisconsin
Marco Rubio : 52 %
Bernie Sanders : 41 %
Undecided : 7 %

Minnesota
Marco Rubio : 49 %
Bernie Sanders : 45 %
Undecided : 6 %

Michigan
Marco Rubio : 53 %
Bernie Sanders : 41 %
Undecided : 6 %

Illinois
Bernie Sanders : 46 %
Marco Rubio : 44 %
Undecided : 10 %

Ohio
Marco Rubio : 57 %
Bernie Sanders : 39 %
Undecided : 4 %

Pennsylvania
Marco Rubio : 54 %
Bernie Sanders : 41 %
Undecided : 5 %

New Jersey
Bernie Sanders : 47 %
Marco Rubio : 44 %
Undecided : 9 %

New Hampshire
Marco Rubio : 51 %
Bernie Sanders : 43 %
Undecided : 6 %

Maine
Marco Rubio : 48 %
Bernie Sanders : 44 %
Undecided : 8 %

Virginia
Marco Rubio : 53 %
Bernie Sanders : 38 %
Undecided : 9 %

North Carolina
Marco Rubio : 58 %
Bernie Sanders : 37 %
Undecided : 5 %

Florida
Marco Rubio : 61 %
Bernie Sanders : 35 %
Undecided : 4 %

Colorado
Marco Rubio : 55 %
Bernie Sanders : 41 %
Undecided : 4 %

New Mexico
Marco Rubio : 52 %
Bernie Sanders : 43 %
Undecided : 5 %

Nevada
Marco Rubio : 58 %
Bernie Sanders : 39 %
Undecided : 3 %

California
Marco Rubio : 46 %
Bernie Sanders : 46 %
Undecided : 6 %

Oregon
Marco Rubio : 47 %
Bernie Sanders : 42 %
Undecided : 11 %

Washington
Bernie Sanders : 47 %
Marco Rubio : 45 %
Undecided : 8 %
How many drugs did you take working on this timeline?

King Iear,
If you don't like the TL just stop reading it and stay away from it. AND stop stalking UWS.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2018, 10:55:00 AM »

UWS,
I cannot wait for the "Debates" to start when Rubio is going to teach that Socialist a new one.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2018, 08:25:51 AM »

UWS is well within his rights to go GAGA for rubio. y'all may not like it, but tough luck; he can do what he wants! is it excessive? yes; is it gratuitous? yes; is it gross fanfiction? yup. but leave UWS alone, if u dont like it dont read it!

Well said!

And I don't get it why people want UWS banned. Personally I think some of the Users who are conspiring against UWS are just been jealous of him because they don't have the creativity & detailness to create such a TL like he did. UWS gets consistently mobbed here on Atlas for no reason at all. And yes, it is harrassing.

It's definitly the most detailed TL I've read. UWS would be good creating any timeline Democratic or Republican because he has creativity others don't have.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2018, 09:12:50 AM »

UWS is well within his rights to go GAGA for rubio. y'all may not like it, but tough luck; he can do what he wants! is it excessive? yes; is it gratuitous? yes; is it gross fanfiction? yup. but leave UWS alone, if u dont like it dont read it!

Well said!

And I don't get it why people want UWS banned. Personally I think some of the Users who are conspiring against UWS are just been jealous of him because they don't have the creativity & detailness to create such a TL like he did. UWS gets consistently mobbed here on Atlas for no reason at all. And yes, it is harrassing.

It's definitly the most detailed TL I've read. UWS would be good creating any timeline Democratic or Republican because he has creativity others don't have.
There are plenty of good, detailed timelines out there that aren't tedious to read, like Between Two Majorities, Camelot Anew, the Romney Administration, and the Liberal Republic. UWS isn't some sort of TL god, and pretending he is is why people think you're his sock.

@NYE and MassGuy: I genuinely don't like this timeline for a number of reasons, so guess what: I don't read it. Others should follow suit and let UWS wank in peace.

The other TL's you mentioned don't have the Details this TL has. That's why I got interested in this TL.

As for being UWS sock. I'm not. I'm a German from Southern Germany. I can't even cast a Vote for US Candidates. I shouldn't be interested in American Politics, it shouldn't be my business but I'm interested in the American Political System since 2000 when a certain GWB stole the US Election.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2018, 01:27:00 PM »

Rubio leading in California LOL

Not completely unreasonable. If you check Sanders Positions and compare that with Democrat Michael Dukakis who lost a landslide in 1988 they are quite similar.

Electoral Count 1988
George H. W. Bush 426
Michael Dukakis 111
Abstentions 1
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2018, 09:26:27 AM »

UWS,

Considering the Republicans have such strong supermajorities in both chambers, and that Rubio has amazingly high approval ratings, they ought to repeal the 22nd Amendment assuming Rubio wins reelection and the Republican Party holds their majorities in both chambers. That way, Rubio can seek a third term if his approval ratings continue to be favorable.

I hope this doesn't happen. More likely is that UWS is working towards that President Rubio helps Nikki Haley becoming President once he is reelected.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #61 on: June 02, 2018, 04:23:44 PM »

Oh, I know how it will end. By 2024, Rubio will leave office with a 90% approval rating, Republicans will have permanent supermajorities in Congress, and control the White House until the 2040's.

It will end when VP Haley assumes the Presidency becoming the first foreign Woman to do it on January 20th 2025.

And then maybe even UWS surprises us and creates a TL for her. Then you can go into hiding. Haha.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2018, 04:34:40 PM »

This Timeline. This poor timeline. It had such potential. Now look at it. Such a shame. Such Wasted potential.
I guess you would rather have a pessimistic environment than an optimistic scenario. I have the right to say whatever I think would happen. That's what free speech means, something MassGuy has failed to understand time after time after time.
I don't think you understand. I'm not saying you don't have the right to make this TL the way you have (and I don't think MassGuy is saying that either), I'm saying I just don't enjoy it as much as I used to.

MassGuy is just talking nonsense. I still enjoy it. I also enjoy "The Romney Admin TL" by Old School R. Election Night 2020 will have similar outcome than to 2016 by Old School over there I think. At least that looks like UWS's Plan.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2018, 04:52:02 PM »

Warner Brothers making a movie about Rubio? Yeah, this is just creepy at this point.

Also, no way Salazar would endorse Rubio, he'd endorse Sanders in a heartbeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny6SJCNUzqY

Unlike Sanders, Salazar supports free trade and oil drilling just like Rubio does.

Your statement demonstrates how much you're an adversary of free speech (since you don't let me say what I think would happen without you trying to trash it) and how much you know absolutely nothing in American politics.
>Republicans gaining 11 seats in a Republican president's midterm including California

You're one to talk.

Let me remind you, Lyin' Massguy, that most of the senate seats the Democrats weredefending in '18 were in deeply conservative states like Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Miouri and West Virginia. And let me remind you that Rice is pro-choice and is in favor of same-marriage, which helped her to attract independent voters in California. And let me remind you that the Republicans ran strong candidates in  Florida and Ohio with Rick Scott and John Kasich, which increased the Republicans' performance. And I need to remind you that in 2002, even under Republican George W. Bush, the Republicans increased their senate majority.

So don't lecture me about being realistic.
The president's party almost always loses seats in Congress; 2002 was an execption due to 9/11, 1998 was an exception due to the booming economy. Even in those cases, the president's party did not gain 11 seats or pickup a Senate seat in a solid state for the opposing party. Also, yes these are conservative states but the incumbents are popular there.

Also, this is nothing like the Romney Administration. That timeline is pro-Romney, but it doesn't paint him as the greatest president ever.

Really, over there President Romney has a JA of 74%. That's even higher than Rubios. Rubio had it over 70% only for a short Period of time (the first 3 months after he took Office) so don't lecture us. With that you are on ignore.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #64 on: June 03, 2018, 04:45:17 PM »

I'm looking forward to the 3rd Debate and the Updates after that UWS.
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« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2018, 04:34:04 PM »

When are you planning to post the next Updates UWS? Sanders is sooo bad on Foreign Policy. This is going to be fun in the 3rd Debate.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2018, 03:23:56 PM »

2020 Electoral College Map polling

After his strong debate performance, President Rubio maintained his strong lead over Bernie Sanders. He managed to reinforce his advantage among middle class voters by denouncing Sanders' plan that would increase taxes on the middle class and by highlighting the success of his economic policies that led America to strong economic prosperity. October will be marked by  the upcoming vice-presidential debate between Vice-President Haley and former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick and by the second and third presidential debates.


   
Marco Rubio : 377 great electors
Bernie Sanders : 67 great electors
Undecided : 94 great electors

Nationwide opinion polling
Marco Rubio : 61 %
Bernie Sanders : 37 %
Undecided : 2 %

Statewide opinion polling

Iowa
Marco Rubio : 55 %
Bernie Sanders : 39 %
Undecided : 6 %

Wisconsin
Marco Rubio : 54 %
Bernie Sanders : 41 %
Undecided : 5 %

Minnesota
Marco Rubio : 51 %
Bernie Sanders : 46 %
Undecided : 3 %

Michigan
Marco Rubio : 55 %
Bernie Sanders : 40 %
Undecided : 5 %

Illinois
Marco Rubio : 47 %
Bernie Sanders : 46 %
Undecided : 7 %

Ohio
Marco Rubio : 58 %
Bernie Sanders : 39 %
Undecided : 3 %

Pennsylvania
Marco Rubio : 55 %
Bernie Sanders : 40 %
Undecided : 5 %

New Jersey
Marco Rubio : 49 %
Bernie Sanders : 45 %
Undecided : 6 %

Connecticut
Bernie Sanders : 48 %
Marco Rubio : 47 %
Undecided : 5 %

Delaware
Bernie Sanders : 48 %
Marco Rubio : 41 %
Undecided : 11 %

New Hampshire
Marco Rubio : 52 %
Bernie Sanders : 42 %
Undecided : 6 %

Maine
Marco Rubio : 49 %
Bernie Sanders : 44 %
Undecided : 7 %

Virginia
Marco Rubio : 56 %
Bernie Sanders : 38 %
Undecided : 6 %

North Carolina
Marco Rubio : 59 %
Bernie Sanders : 37 %
Undecided : 4 %

Florida
Marco Rubio : 62 %
Bernie Sanders : 35 %
Undecided : 3 %

Colorado
Marco Rubio : 56 %
Bernie Sanders : 40 %
Undecided : 4 %

New Mexico
Marco Rubio : 53 %
Bernie Sanders : 43 %
Undecided : 4 %

Nevada
Marco Rubio : 58 %
Bernie Sanders : 39 %
Undecided : 3 %

California
Marco Rubio : 48 %
Bernie Sanders : 45 %
Undecided : 7 %

Oregon
Marco Rubio : 48 %
Bernie Sanders : 42 %
Undecided : 10 %

Washington
Marco Rubio : 48 %
Bernie Sanders : 45 %
Undecided : 7 %

Old School Republican,
Oregon is a Lean R State according to UWS's Electoral College Projections after the 1st Debate. And the trajectory I doubt hasn't changed much since then.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2018, 04:29:07 PM »

Hey UWS,
with the President being so popular you may should choose a bigger Venue for his Election Night Rally. Something to consider.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2018, 09:44:59 AM »

How did Rubio do with the men and women vote?

Yes, I definitly would like to see some Exit Polls and some County by County Results as well.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #69 on: July 18, 2018, 04:13:07 PM »

Why is Patrick Leahy PPT? PPT has to be from the majority party.

That’s right. John Cronyn, then.

Wrong, that would be Jim Inhofe then I think and not Cornyn since Inhofe is older than Cornyn.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2018, 03:31:55 PM »

If I can, so far, I'm going to post potential Democratic Candidates for 2024 as no Republican would Challenge Nikki Haley if she runs. If she doesn't, I have my own list.

Democrats:

Senator Cory Booker (NJ)
Senator Tim Kaine (VA)
Senator Kamala Harris (CA)
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (NY)
Fmr Governor John Hickenlooper (CO)
Senator Elizabeth Warren (MA)
Senator Chris Murphy (CT)
Representative Tulsi Gabbard (HI)

Republicans (only if Haley doesn't run) :

Senator Bill Haslam (TN)
Governor Charlie Baker (MA)
Senator John Kasich (OH)
Governor Ed Gillespie (VA)
Governor Scott Walker (WI)

Why would Gillibrand, Warren, Hickenlooper or Gabbard run again after they got creamed in the 2020 Primaries? They didn't even make it to the Top 3. Gabbard may run for Senate once Hirono retires.

The most likely Republican Candidates who will run in case Haley doesn't would be Paul Hogan, Charlie Baker and Mary Taylor (all 3 term-limited in 2022) but why wouldn't Haley run. She can make History. Do you know how old John Kasich or Ed Gillespie would be in 2024? Too old IMO to run.

I predict a POTUS Race between Haley and Harris in 2024.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2018, 06:48:03 PM »

When is the next Update?
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2018, 08:07:06 PM »


Too bad you cancelled it. I was a nice and well-written TL. UWS has had put in a lot of hard work.
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2016
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2019, 05:18:29 PM »

This is the longest timeline in Atlas history, congrats! (excluding interactive timelines)
It will still get longer as there are still two years to go in the Rubio Presidency Smiley
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2019, 06:54:08 PM »

Rubio though isn't on the Ballot in 2022 and 2024 so Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada would almost certainly move left again.

When this TL reaches the end of the Rubio Presidency (end of 2024) it will be pretty close what I expect to happen in the Original TL:
# 1 The Rust Belt would move right.
# 2 The Sun Belt & West move left.

Rubio being the 1st Hispanic Nominee and then President negated for example the Voter Registration Advantage Democrats have in Nevada in 2016 & 2020.
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