Official January 7th Debate Thread

[Torie]

Newt seems to continue to self destruct God bless him. His day is just so over. He's just a nasty prick, and now the folks are realizing that.  Life is good. Of course, like most middle class kids he legally evaded the draft to avoid being in harm's way, working the system! Be honest Newt. Paul is wrong however, that our warriors subject to being killed or maimed, or disproportionately these days persons of color. They are not. Persons of color tend to have desk jobs in the military. It is white middle class kids who want to play Rambo. He is right however, as to how our drugs law are unfairly applied. Having had a brush with them, I know. Cops don't really want to mess much with persons of my class and race on that kind of stuff. They just don't. Among other things, we will litigate the matter to death, and require them to spend hours and hours in court. They don't like courts.

[Torie]

Bain capital will be the death of Romney.

I tend to agree.  When you investigate what actually happened there, it's a goldmine.  Certainly enough to turn any independent conservative like myself from ever thinking about voting for him.

What was improper with what Bain did again?  I mean taking over sick companies, and trying to resuscitate them, and if they can't be profitably reanimated, killing them off, seems to be benign creative resurrection and destruction to me. It is what drives productive capitalism Sam. Surely you know this.

[Torie]

Bain capital will be the death of Romney.

I tend to agree.  When you investigate what actually happened there, it's a goldmine.  Certainly enough to turn any independent conservative like myself from ever thinking about voting for him.

What was improper with what Bain did again?  I mean taking over sick companies, and trying to resuscitate them, and if they can't be profitably reanimated, killing them off, seems to be benign creative resurrection and destruction to me. It is what drives productive capitalism Sam. Surely you know this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/romneys-bain-capital-record-shows-mixed-record-on-bankruptcies/2011/12/13/gIQANksluO_story.html

As I said, after making one's best efforts, sometimes things just don't work out, and you cut your loses, because the companies cannot be made profitable, and you BK them. Clearly Mitt had a good batting average overall. If you "win" every time, you are probably a Bernie Madoff type. Taking on highly risky companies means that sometimes, the wrong tail of the bell curve will rear its ugly head.

Is anyone confused by this concept? Heck, I have lost money sometimes on real estate, and trust me, I am very careful man on this sort of thing, unlike on some other matters.

If the voters cannot understand this, they deserve "Obamanomics," from here to eternity.

[Torie]

In my entire life, nobody has been inclined to beat me up for my little proclivities Sam. I guess living in an upper middle class world insulates me, plus being 6" 2" in height perhaps.