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TheSaint250
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« on: September 06, 2017, 03:20:11 PM »


Standing up against anti-semitism is not purity politics.  It's being a decent human being.

Standing up to that apartheid state of Israel is not anti-semitism.

Being anti-Israel doesn't necessarily make one anti-Semitic, but it has become the dogwhistle of choice for the anti-Semitic Left.  Also BDS is obviously a very anti-Semitic group.

Just curious, what has BDS done that was anti-Semitic? (Not challenging you. I'm very pro-Israel. Just wanna know.)
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TheSaint250
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2017, 08:05:27 AM »


Standing up against anti-semitism is not purity politics.  It's being a decent human being.

Standing up to that apartheid state of Israel is not anti-semitism.

Being anti-Israel doesn't necessarily make one anti-Semitic, but it has become the dogwhistle of choice for the anti-Semitic Left.  Also BDS is obviously a very anti-Semitic group.

Just curious, what has BDS done that was anti-Semitic? (Not challenging you. I'm very pro-Israel. Just wanna know.)

At a basic level they stand for collective punishment of all Israeli citizens for the perceived crimes of their government. Jews have always been held collectively responsible for what any members of the tribe do so it's a pretty standard anti-semitic trope and the BDS movement obviously doesn't use this as a principle in any other case. There is also a bunch of stuff coming out of their rallies and support groups and so on that is very obviously anti-semitic.

Geez. That's quite the organization for politicians to be associated with
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TheSaint250
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 06:38:58 AM »

It disgusts how everyone from BDS to the UN consider Israel an apartheid state. It is nothing close to one.
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TheSaint250
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 08:44:26 AM »

The radical left has never been a reliable ally in the fight for human rights

Uh, then who are the "reliable all[ies]" of the human rights movement? I don't see how the people with the deepest-seated commitment to egalitarian principles are anything but the primary allies of the humans rights cause.

Anti-semites don't really have a deep-seated commitment to egalitarian principles. Tongue

Us liberals who actually support universal human rights are the good guys. The radical left is a good ally at times but discussions like this is a useful reminder that it can't be relied upon. Currently, the radical left cannot be relied upon to protect Jews, for example.

This. And the far-left outside the Western world didn't really have a good track record on civil rights...
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