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« on: April 18, 2011, 09:37:52 AM »
« edited: April 18, 2011, 09:43:09 AM by big bad fab »

Willing to reach more balanced relations with Germany, Baldwin decides to drop Poincaré, but doesn't want to appear to be too germanophile and picks Tomas Masaryk, another respected great figure, intended to please the US and to set a stronger basis in the young Central European states.

The ticket easily prevails in this reconstruction period.

1920 : Stanley Baldwin / Raymond Poincaré
1924 : Stanley Baldwin / Tomas Masaryk


Conservative democratic party (center-right) / Liberal republican party (center-right)
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 08:40:44 AM »

Having outweighed the more bellicist Ramsay MacDonald and Edouard Daladier in a hard-fought primary, Hansson and Torcuato de Alvear cruise to the general election, as the failures of Vargas and the remaining economic crisis favour a center-left victory.

1920: Stanley Baldwin/Raymond Poincaré
1924: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk
1928: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk

1932: Getulio Vargas/John Horne Blackmore
1936: Per Albin Hansson/Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear

Conservative democratic party (center-right) / Liberal republican party (center-right)
People's Party (populist, economically interventionist but anti-socialist)
Social Democratic and Civic Movement

(what do we do in 1940 ? we've got a problem with the League of Nations... Wink)
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 02:22:44 PM »

Mmmm... 1940 is 1940... a Churchill/Chiang ticket would have been fun and probably efficient Wink
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2011, 04:40:05 AM »

After the end of WW2, the Cold War pushes the communist areas out of the "World".
The Azaña/Chifley administration is perceived as weak and wasteful in front of new threats.
And the "World" is more... global now.
Chiang Kaï-Shek was first considered by Ike, but viewed as now too bellicose and corrupt; his hour is over. Inönü emerged as a way to represent countries from the South while still taking things under control...

1920: Stanley Baldwin/Raymond Poincaré
1924: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk
1928: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk

1932: Getulio Vargas/John Horne Blackmore
1936: Per Albin Hansson/Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear
1940: Per Albin Hansson/Manuel Azaña
1944 : Winston Churchill/Edvard Benes
1948: Manuel Azaña/Ben Chifley
1952: Dwight Eisenhower/Ismet Inönü

Conservative democratic party (center-right) / Liberal republican party (center-right)
People's Party (populist, economically interventionist but anti-socialist)
Social Democratic and Civic Movement
Rally for defense of Democracy (a broad and trans-ideological coalition advocating for tough policies against fascism)
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 11:39:00 AM »

The Kubitschek presidency is a mess and the tickets with Americans (Nixon and LBJ) are outrageous for many southern peoples, so the new rally, Patriots of the World, succeeds in grasping power.

But Nehru dies almost immediately and the VP turned president is forced to pick another bigwig from the South.

1920: Stanley Baldwin/Raymond Poincaré
1924: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk
1928: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk

1932: Getulio Vargas/John Horne Blackmore
1936: Per Albin Hansson/Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear
1940: Per Albin Hansson/Manuel Azaña
1944 : Winston Churchill/Edvard Benes
1948: Manuel Azaña/Ben Chifley
1952: Dwight Eisenhower/Ismet Inönü
1956: Dwight Eisenhower/Ismet Inönü
1960: Juscelino Kubitschek/Antonio Segni
1964: Jawaharlal Nehru/Charles de Gaulle
1964: Charles de Gaulle/Gustavo Diaz Ordaz

Conservative democratic party (center-right) / Liberal republican party (center-right)
People's Party (populist, economically interventionist but anti-socialist)
Social Democratic and Civic Movement
Rally for defense of Democracy (a broad and trans-ideological coalition advocating for tough policies against fascism)
Christian Democrat Party - centrist, christian and agrarian party
Patriots of the World - anti-federalist rally, rather statist and reaching across the political spectrum
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 04:32:46 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2011, 04:35:24 PM by big bad fab »

(sorry guys, but de Gaulle died in 1970)

The 2nd petroleum crisis pushed a wave of rightism, but Reaghan, as an American and as a conservative was toxic for many countries.
He made a great strategic move by picking Hussein of Jordan on his ticket: the first Arab guy on a ticket and a rather neutral independent.
He managed to prevail over the left and over weird "centrist" ticket Giscard d'Estaing/Bokassa Grin Tongue.

1920: Stanley Baldwin/Raymond Poincaré
1924: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk
1928: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk

1932: Getulio Vargas/John Horne Blackmore
1936: Per Albin Hansson/Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear
1940: Per Albin Hansson/Manuel Azaña
1944 : Winston Churchill/Edvard Benes
1948: Manuel Azaña/Ben Chifley
1952: Dwight Eisenhower/Ismet Inönü
1956: Dwight Eisenhower/Ismet Inönü
1960: Juscelino Kubitschek/Antonio Segni
1964: Jawaharlal Nehru/Charles de Gaulle
1964: Charles de Gaulle/Gustavo Diaz Ordaz
1968: Charles de Gaulle/Gustavo Diaz Ordaz
1970: Gustavo Diaz Ordaz/Zulfikar Ali Bhutto
1972 : Pierre Trudeau/Willy Brandt
1976: Harold Wilson/Jimmy Carter
1980: Ronald Reagan/Hussein bin Talal


Social Democratic and Civic Movement
Rally for defense of Democracy (a broad and trans-ideological coalition advocating for tough policies against fascism)
Christian Democrat Party - centrist, christian and agrarian party
Patriots of the World - anti-federalist rally, rather statist and reaching across the political spectrum
Social-Liberal Alliance (a merger of the SDCM with minor center-liberal parties)
The Alliance of the Left and Social Democrats (ALSD) - Moderate democratic socialist party, ardently centre-left. More left-wing splinter party that developed shortly after the formation of the SLA.
Independents
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 04:36:10 PM »

Take your revenge with Brandt/Abdou Diouf in 1984, Antonio Wink
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 05:03:55 PM »

Nelson Mandela becomes the first African president of the World, on a ticket with former European Governor, Jacques Delors.

1920: Stanley Baldwin/Raymond Poincaré
1924: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk
1928: Stanley Baldwin/Tomas Masaryk

1932: Getulio Vargas/John Horne Blackmore
1936: Per Albin Hansson/Marcelo Torcuato de Alvear
1940: Per Albin Hansson/Manuel Azaña
1944 : Winston Churchill/Edvard Benes
1948: Manuel Azaña/Ben Chifley
1952: Dwight Eisenhower/Ismet Inönü
1956: Dwight Eisenhower/Ismet Inönü
1960: Juscelino Kubitschek/Antonio Segni
1964: Jawaharlal Nehru/Charles de Gaulle
1964: Charles de Gaulle/Gustavo Diaz Ordaz
1968: Charles de Gaulle/Gustavo Diaz Ordaz
1970: Gustavo Diaz Ordaz/Zulfikar Ali Bhutto
1972 : Pierre Trudeau/Willy Brandt
1976: Harold Wilson/Jimmy Carter
1980: Ronald Reagan/Hussein bin Talal
1984: Ronald Reagan/Hussein bin Talal
1988: Hussein bin Talal/Brian Mulroney
1992: Nelson Mandela/Jacques Delors

Conservative democratic party (center-right) / Liberal republican party (center-right)
People's Party (populist, economically interventionist but anti-socialist)
Social Democratic and Civic Movement
Rally for defense of Democracy (a broad and trans-ideological coalition advocating for tough policies against fascism)
Christian Democrat Party - centrist, christian and agrarian party
Patriots of the World - anti-federalist rally, rather statist and reaching across the political spectrum
Social-Liberal Alliance (a merger of the SDCM with minor center-liberal parties)
The Alliance of the Left and Social Democrats (ALSD) - Moderate democratic socialist party, ardently centre-left. More left-wing splinter party that developed shortly after the formation of the SLA.
Independents
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2011, 05:06:42 PM »

We still wait for a"yellow" Asian to win something.
Koizumi in the 2000s ? Kim Dae Jung ?
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2011, 02:06:12 AM »

This is far too Anglo-Saxon guys Sad.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2011, 03:35:32 AM »


Yeah, there is basically nothing besides the West+Brazil...


Too many reelections and not enough changes of VP Wink.

I've put Inonu, Mandela, Hussein, Torcuato de Alvear, Diaz Ordaz, Nehru, Masaryk
and have suggested Koizumi or Kim Dae-jung
so I've done my part Wink
but to no great effect.
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