Italian Elections and Politics 2018: Yellow Tide

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Well these results are going to suck.

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I blame Renzi and his stupid referendum. I mean, the rise of the fascists isn't entirely his fault, but his blunder and his resignation definitely accelerated the rise.

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Wait, so Salvini might actually become the fu**** Prime Minister?

Wasn't Zaia supposedly the choice of Premier for Lega in the event they'd overtake FI?

I don't know, but whoever it is, it's gonna suck.

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Why doesn't Salvini shave? I remember when fascists used to have some form of style for their facial hair, not gross neckbeards.

I think he's hot

Fascism isn't sexy.

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Di Maio, definitely.

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Btw, watching the international politics amateurs over at PredictIt trying to predict the next PM is quite amusing.

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Am I correct that M5S is anti capitalist? Isn't degrowth essentially anti-capitalist? If so, I don't know why they would form a government with Salvini and his band of dumbasses.

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I mean yeah, but I would argue they have more in common with the Democrats than with League.

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I mean yeah, but I would argue they have more in common with the Democrats than with League.

Policy-wise perhaps, but PD is so (to use an American term) "swampy" that they may prefer LN.

Heard chat elsewhere about M5S + PD supply with PD kicking Renzi, probably the most likely M5S government right now. I say again, Lega and M5S agree on virtually nothing besides the migrants,, so very little change of a alliance there.

That could work. At this point I'm perfectly willing to jettison Renzi if it means stopping Salvini.

If current results hold, what do you guys think the post likely government is?

This.

I don't care for Renzi. The Democrats have to be willing to boot him if they want to stop Salvini and Berlusconi. I actually see a PD-M5S coalition coming out of this. They have more in common policy-wise than the others.

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I cannot believe that I'm rooting for the f**king Five Star Movement.

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So what government are we all predicting. I'm gonna go with M5S-PD but Renzi won't be leading it.

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My family is from Molise and Abruzzo. Glad to see the League is only getting 7% in the former.

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Berlusconi and his government was responsible for a lot of the damage, PA Deplorable.

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Centre-right hits a million votes.

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Italy counts slower than Atlanta.

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F**K

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Praying for a M5S-PD government.

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I wish the map was color coded 😭

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Renzi needs to leave.

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Honestly, I always knew PD was headed for a bad night, but his referendum and his resignation/return really screwed the bloc over.

Anyways, I'm predicting an M5S-PD coalition with Genitiloni as Prime Minister. Renzi is foolish if he thinks either party is gonna want him to be the head.

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Honestly, I always knew PD was headed for a bad night, but his referendum and his resignation/return really screwed the bloc over.

Anyways, I'm predicting an M5S-PD coalition with Genitiloni as Prime Minister. Renzi is foolish if he thinks either party is gonna want him to be the head.

It seems the betting markets agree with you on Genitiloni, but could you explain to me why that is / M5S would go along with that?

Well, M5S and their leaders seem to align, policy-wise, more with the Democrats and their Centre-left bloc. The only thing they have in common with the League is their anti-migrant policies, and they have virtually nothing in common with Forza Italia.

The only thing getting in the way of a M5S-PD coalition is their views on the EU. I'm sure the PD is willing to make SOME concessions to the Movement in order to keep Salvini from becoming Prime Minister. One of those is almost certainly going to be ejecting Renzi as their head, which I'm sure the vast majority of their party members are willing to do. He did, after all, just lead them to near-extinction at the polls.

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Anyways, I'm predicting an M5S-PD coalition with Genitiloni as Prime Minister. Renzi is foolish if he thinks either party is gonna want him to be the head.

No chance in hell.

There is a chance in hell, believe it or not. You'd be foolish to think neither the PD or the M5S aren't at least considering it.

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I don't know!

Maybe. I strongly believe that if there is a coalition it will be M5S-PD. As for Gentiloni I was going off of the betting markets.

I'm not a psychic and neither of us know what the party leaders are thinking.

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I wouldn't mind Emiliano. As for Renzi being dumped, those aren't simply just "musings". He's finished after tonight.

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Like I said: Italy counts slower than Atlanta.