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« on: April 20, 2020, 11:12:05 PM »
« edited: April 20, 2020, 11:18:00 PM by ERM64man »

OC was known for being GOP then. Why were Anaheim and OC’s North Coast represented by Democrats?
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2020, 12:02:47 AM »

This is something I've also wanted to know. For the entire time that Orange County has had more than one district within its borders, it's only been an all GOP delegation from 1984-1996.

From 1962-1974, Richard Hanna represented the 34th district, and he was followed by Jerry Paterson in a successor district (38th) from 1974-1984. Mark Hannaford represented the redrawn 34th district from 1974-1978, although it also spilled over into Los Angeles County.

What were these guys like? I have to imagine they were quite a bit more conservative than the national Democratic party.

Fun little side note, Hanna was the central political figure in the Koreagate scandal.
Hanna/Patterson were Anaheim/Santa Ana. Was Hannaford Seal Beach/Westminster/West Garden Grove/Huntington Beach/Cypress/Long Beach in the 1970s? Who were the OC Democrats other than Hanna in the 1960s?
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2020, 09:03:38 AM »
« Edited: April 21, 2020, 09:07:35 AM by ERM64man »

Was it the Hispanic vote that helped elect Hanna and Patterson?
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2020, 09:10:11 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2020, 10:34:46 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2020, 11:22:03 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2020, 11:46:18 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2020, 12:00:12 PM »
« Edited: April 21, 2020, 12:06:41 PM by ERM64man »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2020, 12:14:38 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2020, 12:23:11 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2020, 12:29:06 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2020, 12:38:39 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?

They were all pretty middle of the road.
The answer is average liberal. Wiggins was a staunch Nixon supporter. What was Hosmer like?
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2020, 12:45:12 PM »

Did the arrival of large numbers of Asians cause the Democratic incumbent on OC to lose in 1978?
Hannaford’s district is now Lowenthal’s. Hannaford lost because Watergate was over and Vietnamese immigrants were very GOP at the time.
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2020, 12:50:17 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?

They were all pretty middle of the road.
The answer is average liberal. Wiggins was a staunch Nixon supporter. What was Hosmer like?

Hosmer voted against the 1965 Civil Rights Act but for the other ones.  Probably conservative.
Was he a run of the mill conservative, or a Tea Party firebrand like Schmitz and Dornan?
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2020, 12:53:47 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?

They were all pretty middle of the road.
The answer is average liberal. Wiggins was a staunch Nixon supporter. What was Hosmer like?

Hosmer voted against the 1965 Civil Rights Act but for the other ones.  Probably conservative.
Was he a run of the mill conservative, or a Tea Party firebrand like Schmitz and Dornan?

More run of the mill I’d say.
That makes sense, Hosmer represented Long Beach. Was Wiggins run of the mill or Tea Party?
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2020, 01:09:44 PM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?

They were all pretty middle of the road.
The answer is average liberal. Wiggins was a staunch Nixon supporter. What was Hosmer like?

Hosmer voted against the 1965 Civil Rights Act but for the other ones.  Probably conservative.
Was he a run of the mill conservative, or a Tea Party firebrand like Schmitz and Dornan?

More run of the mill I’d say.
That makes sense, Hosmer represented Long Beach. Was Wiggins run of the mill or Tea Party?

Wiggins was probably similar to Hosmer.  Wiggins dropped his support for Nixon after the smoking gun tape.
Was Loretta Sanchez (who later held Patterson's seat) a centrist New Dem, mainstream progressive, or Berniecrat?
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2020, 01:29:14 PM »

Why did Loretta Sanchez do better in Garden Grove (her best OC city) in the 2016 Senate race, than in the more heavily Hispanic Santa Ana?
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2020, 08:19:34 AM »

Hannaford represented the OC North Coast in the 1970s. Who was OC’s North Coast Democrat in the 1960s?

There wasn’t one.  Hannaford was the first Dem to represent that area.
Was Hanna the only OC Democrat before Hannaford?

I believe so.
What parts of LA County and OC (other than Anaheim) were in Hanna's district? Patterson's district (old CA-38) is now CA-46.

Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Westminster, Cypress, Buena Park, Lakewood (LA county), and the West side of Santa Ana.
So Hanna represented the North Coast too?
This map is not detailed enough. 25 and 32 seem to be either inland OC or and/or Long Beach districts. Were the LA/OC districts 25 and 32 both represented by Republicans?


Hanna represented the North Coast until the 1968 redraw.  25 was held by a Dem for two terms until he lost in 1966.  I don’t think that district included any of OC (included El Monte and West Covina).  32 was never held by a Dem.
Where were 25/32 located? It seems 25/32 were GOP (Wiggins and Hosmer). Who was Inland? Who was Long Beach?

I was looking at it pre-1968 redraw.  After the redraw, 25 picked up Yorba Linda in OC, which was held by Wiggins (he defeated a Dem in 66 pre redraw).  32 had Long Beach and was held by Hosmer.  Inland was Hanna and Wiggins.
Inland was Wiggins. Long Beach was Hosmer. In San Diego, did Lionel Van Deerlin (D) represent South County?

Yep. VanDeerlin represented all of the Mexico border (37).
Was the Hispanic vote a major factor in electing Patterson and Van Deerlin (their districts are now represented by Correa and Vargas)?

I would think that it was a factor given that both districts included most of the Hispanic voters in each county.
What were Hanna, Patterson, Hannaford, and Van Deerlin like? Average liberals, Berniecrats, or Blue Dogs?

They were all pretty middle of the road.
The answer is average liberal. Wiggins was a staunch Nixon supporter. What was Hosmer like?

Hosmer voted against the 1965 Civil Rights Act but for the other ones.  Probably conservative.
Was he a run of the mill conservative, or a Tea Party firebrand like Schmitz and Dornan?

More run of the mill I’d say.
That makes sense, Hosmer represented Long Beach. Was Wiggins run of the mill or Tea Party?

Wiggins was probably similar to Hosmer.  Wiggins dropped his support for Nixon after the smoking gun tape.
Was Loretta Sanchez (who later held Patterson's seat) a centrist New Dem, mainstream progressive, or Berniecrat?

New Dem.
I thought she was a Blue Dog, and her sister Linda was the New Dem.
She voted like a New Dem. Which areas did Hanna represent after the 1968 redraw?
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2020, 09:30:33 AM »

What was Hanna’s district after 1968 (without the North Coast, before Patterson)?
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2020, 11:27:10 AM »

What was Hanna’s district after 1968 (without the North Coast, before Patterson)?

Basically the same as before but without the North Coast.  The district was overpopulated (pre Baker v Carr) when it included the North Coast.
Wasn’t the decision invalidating malapportioned districts Wesberry v. Sanders?
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2020, 01:00:06 PM »

What was Hanna’s district after 1968 (without the North Coast, before Patterson)?

Basically the same as before but without the North Coast.  The district was overpopulated (pre Baker v Carr) when it included the North Coast.
Wasn’t the decision invalidating malapportioned districts Wesberry v. Sanders?

May have been that one.
Wesberry v. Sanders.
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