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Question: If Beto doesn't win his Senate race, does he enter the 2020 Pres Primary?
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« on: October 13, 2018, 07:19:49 AM »
« edited: October 26, 2018, 10:07:12 PM by SCNCmod »

Beto is clearly the Democrat with the most Buzz & the biggest fundraising ability in the Country right now.  So if he loses the Senate election... does he turn that popularity and financial warchest towards the Presidential race?  

(also- in addition to his fund-raising ability- his net worth is around $10 Million... so its not like he urgently needs to get back to the private sector to make money).  And his prospects for public office in Texas would be limited to waiting for 2 years to run for his old house seat... which is unlikely appealing to him at this point.

Ordinarily such a jump would seem rather crazy- but considering he has far more political experience than Trump did... maybe not so crazy.  And even if he didn't get the nomination (which I actually think he would have a good shot at)- a number 2 finish would set him up as a VP favorite).

(EDIT...ADD-ON..QUESTION 2) If you were Beto, would you enter the 2020 Presidential Primary if you lost the Senate race?
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2018, 09:24:25 AM »

Beto is clearly the Democrat with the most Buzz & the biggest fundraising ability in the Country right now.  So if he loses the Senate election... does he turn that popularity and financial warchest towards the Presidential race? 

(also- in addition to his fund-raising ability- his net worth is around $10 Million... so its not like he urgently needs to get back to the private sector to make money).  And his prospects for public office in Texas would be limited to waiting for 2 years to run for his old house seat... which is unlikely appealing to him at this point.

Ordinarily such a jump would seem rather crazy- but considering he has far more political experience than Trump did... maybe not so crazy.  And even if he didn't get the nomination (which I actually think he would have a good shot at)- a number 2 finish would set him up as a VP favorite).
Doubt it. A loss in a senate race isn't really a great platform to run on. "Oh, the guy who ran up record contributions and STILL lost...".

But if he makes the race closer than anyone even thought possible & he's the one candidate in 2018 with the biggest national buzz & is getting presidential level financial contributions... Then the fact that a Progressive Dem barely lost in a solid Red state- would not be looked at as disqualifying.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2018, 10:28:27 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2018, 10:36:25 PM by SCNCmod »


I have never once understood the Kander hype... noone would be able to find 1 post of mine that said anything remotely upbeat about Kander.. In fact he usually pops up in my comments to "most overrated" threads. (The only thing Kander had... is the 1 thing Beto lacks... a good TV Ad!)

Beto is clearly in a different category than Kander, both in political talent, fundraising ability, and political buzz.  
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2018, 10:30:47 PM »

Beto would sort of fit the trend of Trudeau & Macron (both of them were relatively newcomers ... didn't have long big-time resumes of publicly elected positions)...  and they've turned out to be 2 of the more influential world leaders currently.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2018, 02:42:12 AM »

Nah, he should wait for a dem win in 2020 and get a cabinet appointment.

Cabinet Appointment doesn't seem to get texans very far... ie Castro.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2018, 06:12:19 AM »

Beto is a good example of being able to deliver liberal policy points... but in a moderate tone that doesn't immediately turn off moderate Republicans and independents. (video clip from last night's Texas debate)
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 11:17:58 PM »

Beto gave a very strong performance on the CNN Town Hall.  and did a very good job of presenting Liberal ideas..... in a manner that would not immediately turn off Independants and Moderate Republicans... and in a tone that does not seem radical or overly partisan.











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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2018, 08:36:11 PM »


c)So far at least, he's done a good job of appealing to both moderates and liberals


f)Most importantly, the 2020 Democratic field is looking pretty weak. There's a huge opening for fresh blood.

Also, there's no shame in losing to an incumbent in TX. If he can at least keep the race close, he'd have a strong argument that he's more electable than people like Sanders, Warren, and Harris, all of whom are from safely blue states.

Most Deep Blue state Senators win in the (senate) Primary... and this is accomplished by who can sound the most liberal/ progressive. This highlights One reason electability is often an issue for Senators from deep Blue states (a few obvious exceptions like Obama)... Most of these such Senators have no experience having to communicate their ideas to Independents and moderate Republican voters in swing states who may be open to their policies, but who are often turned off by a hyper partisan tone and rhetoric.
.....This is what could set Beto apart from top name candidates regarding electability (who are Deep Blue Senators) like Warren, Harris, Sanders, Booker.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2018, 10:08:03 PM »

I added a poll- Do you think Beto enter the primary? (regardless if you think he should or not).
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2018, 05:32:33 AM »
« Edited: November 07, 2018, 05:37:14 AM by SCNCmod »

He enters the Democratic primary for the Texas senate seat up in 2020, gets the nomination, and runs a tough fight against the incumbent Republican.  
If he couldn't beat Cruz, he won't beat Cornyn. He should run for President honestly. He outdid everyone's expectations, and is by far better than any other potential Dem candidate.

Agree Completely
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2018, 05:35:23 AM »

He ran a great Senate campaign Dems need winners, like Booker and Heinrich, not losing candidates

If you want to keep Beto out of the primary thinking a path will be more clear for Booker.... it won't matter- Cory Booker definitely will not be the nominee (even though last year I thought maybe... but now, not a chance).
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2018, 05:58:22 PM »

Ultra liberals like Gillum and Beto and McCaskill and even Nelson lost big on Tuesday night, except for Brown.  It's not a good idea to run an ultra liberal, like Beto.

McCaskill and Nelson are now ultra Liberal?Huh  (Rubio wouldn't even campaign against Nelson, citing their good working relationship on issues for Florida).
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