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« on: December 01, 2018, 05:52:21 PM »

One reason this is such an issue... is not only did Harris win the general by less than 1000 votes... he won the Primary by 850 votes [and Harris had close to 900 more absentee votes than Pittenger (the incumbent) in Bladen Co.]

Also- the person supposedly at the center of the vote shenanigans... worked for a different candidate in 2016.  That candidate finished 3rd in the 2016 primary... yet overwhelmingly won the absentee vote in Bladen Co.

So the issue is as much about the Primary as it is the general... equally so.

Supposedly the numbers (to a lesser extent) in neighboring Robeson Co were also affected... but for various reasons its harder to prove statistically.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2018, 06:06:31 PM »

It's almost as though Republican accusations of voter fraud only serve to deflect and distract from their own efforts to fraudulently swing elections.

This was the case in 2016 imo... when the person at the center of the scandal (now and in 2016) ... was the one alleging absentee voting fraud against the Dems on behalf of McCroy (the R Governor who barely lost re-election).  So you had the person that it appears was likely committing the Fraud against Dems.... accusing Dems of committing that exact same Fraud. (This was when McCrory was trying everything to hold on to the Governorship).     ...Now, whether or not McCroy actually knew what was going on--- I have no idea.  But at the very least he had no problems of accusing Dems of something he had no proof of- or even a reason to suspect such).
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 02:20:32 AM »

Anyone who is trying to deny that there was voter fraud... Is blatantly just giving hackish spin at this point. 

Now whether or not Harris knew who he was hiring... and whether or not the Primary or the General where swayed by the Fraudulent Absentee Votes (and likely Fraudulent destroying of absentee votes)... Well these are separate questions to be debated.

But at this point- given the stats from both 2016, and 2018 primary, and 2018 general ... and also the affidavits from locals... the question of was there clear voter fraud---> is not a debatable point.  The answer to anyone who has looked at the information and who is not being a hack... is Yes. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2018, 08:47:11 PM »

It absolutely amazes me that there are ppl who are still trying to explain away all of the data from NC-9.   (On top of the data being proof itself- esp when you also look at the 2016 and 2018 Primaries... there are also the affidavits from those paid to collect these absentee ballots).

I mean at this point- does anyone really think they are going to convince anyone that there is nothing to see in NC-9?
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 12:42:36 AM »

I am certainly no Harris fan... And I think there should be not only a new election... and probably even a new primary.  But do ppl really think Harris knew there was outright fraud going on? (vs thinking maybe that this Bladen Co guy was just aggressive at getting ppl to early vote or something?).

I'm asking b/c I genuinely have no idea regarding the likelihood that Harris knew about the actual Fraud type stuff or not.  In one since I just can't imagine anyone would be so reckless (& not think there was a decent likelihood of getting caught (especially since Harris has to know how odd the numbers would look... since he was on the losing side of this scheme in 2016 (I think).  and he had to think things look fishy in 2016 primary. 

Is it possible that in 2016 he just thought this guy was a pushy salesman type person who legally hustled absentee votes... and so this election he hired him so he would be on the losing end of the absentee battle.... Or did he really know that the votes were being manipulated illegally?  (honest thought... not just knee jerk lock him up... or knee jerk he's innocent)
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 09:32:25 PM »
« Edited: December 06, 2018, 10:13:25 PM by SCNCmod »

It's almost as though Republican accusations of voter fraud only serve to deflect and distract from their own efforts to fraudulently swing elections.

This was the case in 2016 imo... when the person at the center of the scandal (now and in 2016) ... was the one alleging absentee voting fraud against the Dems on behalf of McCroy (the R Governor who barely lost re-election).  So you had the person that it appears was likely committing the Fraud against Dems.... accusing Dems of committing that exact same Fraud. (This was when McCrory was trying everything to hold on to the Governorship).    ...Now, whether or not McCroy actually knew what was going on--- I have no idea.  But at the very least he had no problems of accusing Dems of something he had no proof of- or even a reason to suspect such).

This statement seems appropriate again... if any watched the Rachel Maddow show tonight.  

When Republican Gov McCrory barely lost re-election in 2016 to Dem Roy Cooper ... McCrory was trying everything to get the results overturned (this was the same time NC Republicans were doing what Republicans in Wisc are currently doing... changing laws to take all sorts of powers away from the newly elected Dem governor).  1 of the things McCrory tried... was to get the Scoundrel at the center of the NC election scandal (who also did the same thing for Republicans in 2016) ... to actually file a complaint which accused Dems of election fraud via an absentee ballot scheme  (while the whole time... the Scoundrel had in fact been doing this for Republicans).  

This reiterates how sorry of a person McCrory is (at least in his public political life).

This same time in 2016 was when R's in NC were exploring ideas to add 2 members to the State Supreme Court (b/c Dems had just won the pivotal seat on the NC SC)... and when they (I think) did change how the Election Commision in NC operates (to takes power away from Dems regarding election matters)

... I'm not sure how the 2016 election commision attempts by Republicans turned out- If anyone knows please inform!
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2018, 10:09:01 PM »

Harris’ son is an assistant US Atty in the eastern district of NC.

Does he have any role in any legal matters involved with this... or that may come?
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 11:07:53 PM »



Chris Eason's vote was witnessed by a Ginger Eason at the same address.

Ginger Eason delivered her own ballot , along with that of Virginia Kay Eason same address (Ginger indicated that she was Virginia's daughter).

Ginger Eason was also the witness for Michael Eason at the same address.




What's the point being made here?  Its easy to get someone in the house to sign as witness to the ballot before the "Dowless crew" takes it... even if the ballot is not fully filled out.  And then the "crew" gives the ballot of Dowless... who just throws it away.
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