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John Dule
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« on: May 10, 2024, 12:32:23 PM »

He’s not gonna lose the votes of Pro Israel democrats, the question is what’s gonna happen with Haley voters . Most Haley voters already despise his policies on the economy, immigration but were considering supporting him for foreign policy reasons . Well if that reason is gone then , that hurts him as well given how narrowly he won in 2020 . Now does this mean Trump will get their votes , no because Trump still hasn’t given an indication that he will reach out to those voters but if he does then that could cause Biden real problems


I'm sorry but does everybody understand how sociopathic this post is?
Encouraging Biden to stand by and watch the massacre of thousands of innocent women and children because if he does something to save them he might lose the votes of a handful of bigots?  

Thousands of german women and children were killed by the allies during WWII. Was it unjustified?

This comparison will never be relevant no matter how many times ethnic cleansing advocates invoke it.
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John Dule
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2024, 01:00:44 PM »

He’s not gonna lose the votes of Pro Israel democrats, the question is what’s gonna happen with Haley voters . Most Haley voters already despise his policies on the economy, immigration but were considering supporting him for foreign policy reasons . Well if that reason is gone then , that hurts him as well given how narrowly he won in 2020 . Now does this mean Trump will get their votes , no because Trump still hasn’t given an indication that he will reach out to those voters but if he does then that could cause Biden real problems


I'm sorry but does everybody understand how sociopathic this post is?
Encouraging Biden to stand by and watch the massacre of thousands of innocent women and children because if he does something to save them he might lose the votes of a handful of bigots?  

Thousands of german women and children were killed by the allies during WWII. Was it unjustified?

This comparison will never be relevant no matter how many times ethnic cleansing advocates invoke it.

Palestinian nationalism literally is the Islamic version of Nazism. Even Grand Mufti aside, they have stated over and over that they seek to genocide Jews and have proven over and over again they intend to do that no matter how many liberals seem to think they dont.

Despite all of this, they would have had a state by now if they did not reject deals Israel offered them in 2000 and 2008 because the reality is they hate Israel and Jews more than they want statehood . It is actually insane how you keep believing that Israel should just stand by and do nothing and smear their efforts as ethnic cleansing because it 100% is not.

The fact is the only way a two state solution will ever happen is Palestinian nationalism as its currently constructed is completely destroyed

Lol, I never said Israel should "do nothing." I've only said they shouldn't indiscriminately bomb civilians in urban areas for the sole purpose of bloodthirsty revenge. If you're so concerned about antisemitism, why are you encouraging the Jewish state to pursue a path that is turning it into an international pariah hated by Muslims everywhere? Antisemitism is inherently irrational and racist. Why give people a concrete excuse to adhere to it?
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John Dule
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2024, 01:38:09 PM »

He’s not gonna lose the votes of Pro Israel democrats, the question is what’s gonna happen with Haley voters . Most Haley voters already despise his policies on the economy, immigration but were considering supporting him for foreign policy reasons . Well if that reason is gone then , that hurts him as well given how narrowly he won in 2020 . Now does this mean Trump will get their votes , no because Trump still hasn’t given an indication that he will reach out to those voters but if he does then that could cause Biden real problems


I'm sorry but does everybody understand how sociopathic this post is?
Encouraging Biden to stand by and watch the massacre of thousands of innocent women and children because if he does something to save them he might lose the votes of a handful of bigots?  

Thousands of german women and children were killed by the allies during WWII. Was it unjustified?

This comparison will never be relevant no matter how many times ethnic cleansing advocates invoke it.

Palestinian nationalism literally is the Islamic version of Nazism. Even Grand Mufti aside, they have stated over and over that they seek to genocide Jews and have proven over and over again they intend to do that no matter how many liberals seem to think they dont.

Despite all of this, they would have had a state by now if they did not reject deals Israel offered them in 2000 and 2008 because the reality is they hate Israel and Jews more than they want statehood . It is actually insane how you keep believing that Israel should just stand by and do nothing and smear their efforts as ethnic cleansing because it 100% is not.

The fact is the only way a two state solution will ever happen is Palestinian nationalism as its currently constructed is completely destroyed

Lol, I never said Israel should "do nothing." I've only said they shouldn't indiscriminately bomb civilians in urban areas for the sole purpose of bloodthirsty revenge. If you're so concerned about antisemitism, why are you encouraging the Jewish state to pursue a path that is turning it into an international pariah hated by Muslims everywhere? Antisemitism is inherently irrational and racist. Why give people a concrete excuse to adhere to it?

Israel is less of a pariah than it was 40 years ago in the region and the world so this point is false. Its only more so among brainwashed young progressives and young paleocons

I'm sorry, but you just cannot read. I said Israel is "becoming" a pariah, which is true-- its actions have received nothing but condemnation from the international Muslim community, and multiple international institutions are looking into claims of ethnic cleansing and genocide. Israel's only friends on the global stage right now are western neocons (a legendarily unpopular political class) and sh*tposters from Mumbai who reflexively oppose Muslims in any international conflict.

And by what mechanism are young people being "brainwashed?" You mean by seeing the objective truth of what Israel is doing on their social media feeds?
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John Dule
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2024, 02:03:19 PM »

Why should Israel give a frick about being hated by Muslims? Their mere existence is enough for Muslims to hate them, so there's no reason to care. America and Europe are perpetually unpopular in these "Muslim" countries (until comes the time to beg for asylum) and there's not much they can do. Hell, based on what I know of sharia, if radical islamists don't hate you, you must be doing something wrong.

Can't speak for Israel, but I care because of the chain of logic it creates. People like you and OSR constantly make thinly-veiled remarks about how "antisemitism should be eradicated." What does antisemitism mean? Apparently, it means hating Israel. Well, guess what-- there are two million people in Gaza (granted, fewer with each passing day) who hate Israel for perfectly good reasons. What exactly do you want to do to them? Please, just come out and say it. Stop wasting everybody's time with these pathetic obfuscations.
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