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TheLeftwardTide
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« on: September 13, 2017, 02:54:10 PM »

I was not quite five when this thread happened. Now I'm almost an adult...
Almost sixteen =/= almost an adult
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TheLeftwardTide
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2017, 02:10:58 AM »

I'd give up on politics for a little while. It'd be clear to me at that point that the Democratic Party will never change in the way it should. Maybe I'll focus on local politics, see what I can do in Louisiana or Georgia regarding activism, but federal politics would be a sport I'd no longer want to spectate.

You’d be so dismayed by a president who supports single-payer that you’d stop caring about politics. You voted for Trump in a swing state. Why aren’t you a Republican again?
A neoliberal essentially calls someone (that person being an ancestral Democrat) a DINO. Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?
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TheLeftwardTide
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2017, 06:51:09 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2017, 07:22:42 PM by Angry Socdem »

I'd give up on politics for a little while. It'd be clear to me at that point that the Democratic Party will never change in the way it should. Maybe I'll focus on local politics, see what I can do in Louisiana or Georgia regarding activism, but federal politics would be a sport I'd no longer want to spectate.

You’d be so dismayed by a president who supports single-payer that you’d stop caring about politics. You voted for Trump in a swing state. Why aren’t you a Republican again?
A neoliberal essentially calls someone (that person being an ancestral Democrat) a DINO. Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black?
He doesn't support "liberalization" of the economy AFAIK.

Who?  SG or Heat?  SG is decidedly left on economic matters.

Heat, and by "liberalization", I mean deregulation, tax cuts, etc.

I am admittedly much less captivated by left-wing rhetoric than I once was regarding unions, taxes (of the corporate and payroll variety), and especially trade agreements, but it would be pretty disingenuous to compare my views to figures such as Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

Regardless my ideological drift away from the left is not particularly relevant to whether or not it's ironic or hypocritical for me to imply a Trump voter is a Republican. I've voted strictly for Democrats in every election I've been eligible to vote in, and that's not changing anytime soon. Most "neoliberals" didn't donate to and vote for Bernie Sanders either. But it's now just a meaningless buzzword used to evoke whatever negative emotions people hold about the establishment, however substantial or unsubstantial they may be.
The thing is, terms such as "liberal", "classical liberal", and "neoliberal" don't really hold specific meaning. The "Liberal Party" in Australia is the right-wing party, whereas the "Liberal Party" in Canada is the center-left party. I personally define the term "neoliberal" as coupling neoclassical views on economics with social liberalism. Basically Third Way style politics.

There are several things that pointed me in viewing you as such:
- Ironic socialist avatar + rose (largely the symbol of European center-left parties such as Labour)
- Massive support for unfettered free trade
- Election predictions that basically boil down to "centrist = winner, leftist = loser" (I actually would like to see you disprove this by linking a post in the past three months that predicts a left-wing win)

However (and this is the most important part), these are just my subjective, rough estimations of your political beliefs, and I may be very, very wrong in this regard. I will admit that I was wrong to call you a neoliberal in the face of evidence, like I did to a certain Israeli independent.

B-b-b-but all D-Virginia posters are supply siders deep down ! Shocked
Guess I better change my avatar to D-VA then, to reverse this trend (I did live in NoVA for 9 months). The D-MD avatars are generally quite constructive anyway (with one exception).

In all seriousness, heatcharger has an S-VA avatar at the time of posting this...

"everybody is a Republican except for MEEEEEE"
This is a blatant strawman, and a poor one at that - I'm not even close to being the most left-wing D avatar (Bandit3 earns that award).
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TheLeftwardTide
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2017, 01:17:44 PM »

How many FF voters are using a Wi-Fi connection to post that?
You supported a candidate who tried to blame mass shootings on video games.

Then, in response:

Good on you, heatcharger. Couldn't have done it better myself.
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