Clinton ridicules Sanders & say she is committed to build a winning Dem party

[Sestak]

Here's the thing.

Having some identitarian policy is fine.

Defining your entire party on it is not fine.

The Democrats need to stand for something, and right now they don't seem to.

Our best chance of beating Trump is if the party can redefine themselves with a more substantial ideology without having to resort to socialism.

[Sestak]

Two things:

1. Left wing economics won't pull minorities out of poverty. It'll just push everyone else into poverty.

2. Can we stop with this Clinton vs Sanders bickering? You hardcore Hillary/Bernie guys are giving LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE A HEADACHE

[Sestak]

Two things:

1. Left wing economics won't pull minorities out of poverty. It'll just push everyone else into poverty.

I really can't comprehend how we're supposed to be part of the same political party, honestly.

PS. Also, thanks for essentially proving the point of my other post.

The Democrats have never been a socialist political party. They've supported civil rights and civil liberties and center to center-left economics.

Also, I don't see how I've proved the point of your other post. I was by no means a super enthusiastic Clinton supporter, either. And if you're going to claim that any non-socialists aren't "real Democrats", then there really arent that many real Democrats.

[Sestak]

Apparently wanting to go back to New Deal era democrats is socialist.

Lol I never said that. "Left-wing economics" is socialism. New Deal/Great Society is more center-left I believe. And I have no problems with those programs.

[Sestak]

Apparently wanting to go back to New Deal era democrats is socialist.

Exactly. I'm not saying you have to be a Socialist, but New Deal Democratic politics was considerably more populist, labor, and working-class oriented. I don't think you'd see a lot of Democrats from that era talking about how Whites without a college education are deplorable, mocking "White trash," and saying how people should just move from their rural hometown or else suffer poverty.

Okay, I think I may have misunderstood what you were saying when you said "left-wing economics". I assumed you were on the European spectrum where Left wing economics ==> socialist.

[Sestak]

Two things:

1. Left wing economics won't pull minorities out of poverty. It'll just push everyone else into poverty.

In what sense are you a democrat?

See above.

I support Medicare/Medicaid and am open to other government healthcare programs. I strongly support public education and think school vouchers are an awful idea.

I am a bit to the right of center on other economic issues, though I do support some environmental regs and basic consumer protection, etc. I think that competitive markets should be allowed to run (mostly) on their own, but the Republicans have spent a lot of effort making markets uncompetitive

Socially, though, I am very much in the Democratic column. Republican social policies force me to stay 20 feet away from them at all times.

I'm also opposing any GOP policy no matter what at the moment because I don't want Trump to get a political victory.

Is this position really such a lost cause that I should just pick up and join the Republicans? Because if it is, I don't know if we have much of a chance in 2020.

I'm not at all saying that the party should bend to my values or anything. I'm just saying that it should make sure not to alienate people with similar values by constantly going on with the "Wall Street is Satan" rhetoric and using Universal Healthcare as a litmus test. You can make the argument for regulating or reforming Wall Street without acting like it's the embodiment of Lucifer on Earth and blaming every single one of America's problems on it.

[Sestak]

1. Left wing economics won't pull minorities out of poverty. It'll just push everyone else into poverty.

The idea that income equality causes poverty is absurd. Norway has the 3rd lowest Gini coefficient and the 3rd highest per capita income.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

Norway:

1. Has a TON of oil money
2. Gets another huge load of money by ripping off the US on pharmaceuticals.