insider scoop from Newsweek

[opebo]

This is really good news - with what was generally agreed to be a poor candidate, a useless campaign, on our side, and 9/11, incumbency, fear, and hatred on the other side - we still got 48% of the vote and a rather large number of electoral votes.  Not a bad base to build upon. 

[opebo]

we still got 48% of the vote and a rather large number of electoral votes.  \. 

"we" -I still find this hilarious that only a few months ago you were singing the praises of Rick Santorum and John Ashcroft.  Saul of Tarsus has nothing on you,

Believe me, I'll be out of the Democratic avatar the minute I see them pandering to the religious. 

[opebo]

we still got 48% of the vote and a rather large number of electoral votes.  \. 

"we" -I still find this hilarious that only a few months ago you were singing the praises of Rick Santorum and John Ashcroft.  Saul of Tarsus has nothing on you,

Believe me, I'll be out of the Democratic avatar the minute I see them pandering to the religious. 

umm...earth to opebo.  what do you think the dems are doing in black churches?

Hmm... excellent point, WalterMitty. Perhaps opebo has simply forgotten that.

I'd say that the few religious who do vote Democratic for racial or economic reasons are not the predominant influence in the party.  The Christian Right is far and away the predominant group in the Republican Pary.  So perhaps pander was the wrong word - while the Dems may pander - rather deceptively thank goodness - the Republicans are totally controlled by the religious.