Opinion of pornography

[opebo]

Wait, there's been a crackdown on porn? But why?

The two Gs hate freedom and liberty, that's why.

Who are the two Gs?

[opebo]

generally negative, but what are you gonna do.

I hope you just mean you're bored of it.  Jaded.

[opebo]

Neutral entertainment. Useful when it's needed, but one can't help but feel a bit of shame afterwards.

Really?  What is 'shame'?

[opebo]

I'm  referring to its contribution to create rather wrong ideas about sexuality among the human specimens of the masculine sex . The athletic prowesses and the enormous sizes of certain ... ahem ... they create enormous expectations that can be psychologically harmful, because they help to distress the people, who then cannot give good results, render service adequately...

Those really aren't the 'wrong' ideas. 

[opebo]

turns out it is actually 54.5gb.  most of it is from a single massive torrent siterip of a performer I am fond of, 80% it I have not watched.

Who?  Who?

[opebo]

Addicting and destructive -so much so that when I look back on it, I wish I never came across those pictures and videos in the first place.  

Fortunately I have weaned myself off of it, so I consider myself clean again.  

Haha, not all of us are so... easily led.

[opebo]

there is some question as to whether compulsive use of pornography functions as an addiction (see drug use) or as an impulse-control disorder (see compulsive handwashing).

The real reason for this isn't anything particularly attractive about pornography, it is that there is something wrong with a society in which it is so difficult for so many males to get sexual intercourse.

[opebo]

The real reason for this isn't anything particularly attractive about pornography, it is that there is something wrong with a society in which it is so difficult for so many males to get sexual intercourse.

True.

I blame Disney movies.  They make every little girl in this country think she's some perfect princess that has to wait for frickin' Prince Charming to come along until she gives herself up.  If we just told them they are decaying bags of meat like everybody else we'd all be getting it in a lot more. 

The attitude expressed in this post contributes far more to you not getting laid than Disney does.

Oh, Atlas. The reason women won't sleep with you is because there is something wrong with them. Of course.

Guys, the point is that not all men are outgoing, alpha-type Adonises like you.  They can get laid too if there is a decent prostitution industry.

[opebo]

There's the possibility that it would do the for the most part execrable construct of the heterosexual male a world of good to concern himself with matters other than getting his dick wet.

Why, Nathan?  That would only be pretense.

[opebo]

It would be a boon to the people in this world who don't fit into such execrable construct, who outnumber and are as a group morally superior (since undeservedly oppressed, which can be redemptive) to those who do. This particular sort of slavering, bestial sexuality really isn't all that important to most people, or if it is it is so for all the wrong reasons.

Speak for yourself!

And after all, what do you mean 'morally superior'?  Doesn't mean a thing to me.  Have you ever had your hormone levels checked?

[opebo]

And after all, what do you mean 'morally superior'?  Doesn't mean a thing to me.  Have you ever had your hormone levels checked?

I care as much about my hormone levels as you care about your moral standing.

You should care, buddy!  Could lead to lots of negative health effects if you have no testosterone at all.

Heterosexual male sexuality is of great importance to heterosexual females. They have a dog in this fight too.

Heterosexual female sexuality is of great importance to heterosexual females. 

This idea that we all orbit around straight male sexuality is kinda ridiculous.

Of course the great majority of heterosexual females orbit around male sexuality, as their own sexual desires, if any, are so minimal (whether naturally or culturally sublimated I cannot say) that what remains to them is gaining non-sexual benefits from catering (as parsimoniously as possible) to male sexuality.

[opebo]

This thread made me think of a famous quote.

Look at this thread, just look at it.  I feel physically ill.

I do too, but probably for the opposite reasons as Opebo.

^^^

What do you call those guys again? Negative betas. Something like that. Or cold betas.

Which guys? you mean Grumps, Nathan, me, or Antonio?

[opebo]

Say what. Women have minimal sexual desires? I really don't think that's true.

Well, I'm afraid there's a good deal of evidence for it.

The idea is that there are alpha males and beta males. And then there are nice ones and nasty ones. So cold or negative alpha males are classic bad boys. Negative betas are basically neurotic and geeky misogynists and I sense that we have a lot of those on Atlas.

Yes I see, very good. 

And I imagine a great many women who aren't prostitutes are cursed with partners who don't know (and, like you, don't give a damn) how to arouse them properly.  

What the heck buddy?  That's terribly sexist of you - you think women are just passive receptacles for what your prowess?  As for myself, I think her satisfaction is her own responsibility - it is up to her.  (I admit I'm being a bit facetious - for a certain type of woman I'm the mote just - but generally speaking that's a woman who, older, experienced, and really knows what she's doing).

[opebo]

And I imagine a great many women who aren't prostitutes are cursed with partners who don't know (and, like you, don't give a damn) how to arouse them properly.  

What the heck buddy?  That's terribly sexist of you - you think women are just passive receptacles for what your prowess?  As for myself, I think her satisfaction is her own responsibility - it is up to her. 

lolwut

Isn't the point obvious? - your assumption that the realization of the woman's sexuality is dependent upon the mans' 'skill' (that the man 'doesn't know how to make the woman have a pleasure') is the height of gender stereotyping. 

[opebo]

...the physiology of a woman is different from that of a man.  Therefore, she cannot get aroused as quickly as a man can.  And when you're in a relationship, it helps to know that.  You cannot rush into having sex -you have to get there slowly and gradually.  Since this board is moderated by Inks, I am obviously not going into specifics, but foreplay is a big part of it.

Total stereotyping Frodo!  I've had many girlfriends who wanted it NOW, and even more that disliked all that 'foreplay' nonsense.  (I'd say about 30% have been into the oral prep, and about 50% have downright disliked it -- you'll often find that v.orgasmic women find the oral just kind of pointless or even annoying/ticklish).  And if you were a little older you'd know that most older men (not me yet thank goodness, but I can guess it could be coming) probably take longer to arouse than their partners.

Quite honestly it is a matter of taste, and your claim of some generalized physiological difference in 'arousal time' is just baseless, and the basis for a lot of pseudo-scientific stereotyping.

[opebo]

Porn is a horrible curse and so are functioning libidos.

Haha, it is testimony to the prudishness of this forum that one cannot be certain you are joking here.

[opebo]

...knowing that a substantial minority enter the sex industry because of a troubled past or because they have nowhere else to go has ruined pornography for me.

I can't watch a ten-minute video without spending far more time researching the background of everyone who appears onscreen. Even in the rare cases when I find enough information to remove the discomfort involved, the process tends to ruin the experience.

You need to cease feeling 'guilt' or whatever that is.  It is really completely unnecessary to feel that.

[opebo]

Horrible entertainment, and horrible thread.

So how do you get it off?  Looking at men's clothing catalogs?

[opebo]

Horrible entertainment, and horrible thread.

So how do you get it off?  Looking at men's clothing catalogs?

I recall last time this came up you posited I stared at the wall.

See, my opinion of you is on the upswing, old chap!

[opebo]

With the exception of the oral part though - in my experience "I don't like oral" usually just means "I haven't had it done well"

Garbage.  Its usually a matter of their perception of dominant/submissive or gender or whatever roles they're most comfortable with/excited by - as in, the guy who 'takes' them is a lot more exciting than the kneeling considerate.  That, or more rarely just anxieties about cleanliness of that area, or simple disinterest in or dislike of those particular sensations compared to those of actual intercourse.