Vote on Articles of Impeachment

[jerusalemcar5]

Article I:Nay

Article II:Nay

However, Ebowed did bring this upon himself and I believe he did violate the Constitution and his oath in the following article, regardless of what he did afterwards.  Therefore,

Article III:Aye

[jerusalemcar5]

Nay on all articles on the understanding that the President has learnt his lesson and offends no more

'Hawk'

So if a murderer kills someone and says he won't due it anymore, it was meant to just be some fun, he should be let go, right?

[jerusalemcar5]

Nay on all articles on the understanding that the President has learnt his lesson and offends no more

'Hawk'

So if a murderer kills someone and says he won't due it anymore, it was meant to just be some fun, he should be let go, right?

You're the one who wrote that he killed people because you hated Ebowed so it's your fault, not his. -_-

It was a metaphor, Jedi, and he did kill Harry, but Harry rose from the dead.

[jerusalemcar5]

4-4, I guess WMS will decide what happens.

Is there a reason for which you are counting Captain Vlad's vote, even after the Senator resigned? (If there is some rule or precedent I am not aware of, I would like to be informed.)

Didnt he vote, then resign? Or does that not matter?

At least in teh Senate if you vote and then resign the vote counts because you voted before you resigned.

But in Jerusalemcar5 vs.Senate, we ruled that the number of the Senate was "9" because Yates had resigned, even though he was senator when the vote opened. That is, we upheld your declaration that the Senate was "9" due to Yates' resignation.

The rule on votes on Veto overrides says:

"For the purposes of a Veto Override only, any Senator who Abstains from voting shall be counted as a vote Against the legislation under consideration. "

So, if a senator's resignation in the middle of a vote doesn't change the number, I definitely see an argument that on the Atlasian Bahrain Free Trade bill veto override, since Yates was Senator during part of the voting, but didn't vote, his vote should have counted as an abstention, and thus, "Against the legislation under consideration."

But something's not consistent here. I really recommend the Senate make a rule about what happens when a Senator resigns in the middle of a vote.

That is not the same because Yates had not yet cast a vote.  A vote legally cast by a legal Senator cannot be negated by a resignation.  That makes no sense.

[jerusalemcar5]

A vote legally cast by a legal Senator cannot be negated by a resignation.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=32568.msg757500#msg757500

It wasn't resolved there wither it appears, they just ignored it becaus ethe vote didn't matter.  I meant that from a logical perspective, by the way.

[jerusalemcar5]

Bloody f***ing hell, I hate being the swing vote.

I would like to see what Atlasia thinks about this, since both sides have good arguments.

Aye.

Uh oh.  Now Jake/Vlad is the swing vote.  Articles 1 and 2 definitely failed.  Article 3 is in question however.