Bulgaria 2013

[Tender Branson]

A relatively close race so far, according to the "temperature" reports:

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Bulgaria has an exit-poll ban until the vote is over, but the news media uses "temperatures" instead ...

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Did you vote and if yes, for which party ?

Also: Any government site/news site with good charts/maps of the results ?

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Polling place "shuttle service" in Bulgaria:



(I often forget how poor most parts of this country (and in Romania) still are ...)

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Speaking of Romas (isn't gypsies a politically incorrect name these days, like ni**er ? Even though like 90% of people here in Austria refer to them as "Zigeuner" as well, and not as Roma ... ):

What are the parties attitudes and policies towards this population group (I guess Ataka is the most anti-Roma, but who wants to help them find jobs etc. ?)

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Also: GMantis, does this have anything to do with election results ?

http://novinite.bg/articles/37433/Klasaciya-na-bukmejkarite-za-naj-populyarnite-chisla-ot-konnite-sastezaniya-na-hipodroma-v-Bankya-kam-1830-ch

[Tender Branson]

The Bulgarian Embassy in London is right next to my house and at the moment there's a massive queue outside, but it's moving so slowly it looks as if no-one is even entering the building. Perhaps the fact that people are lining up from 2 completely different positions on each side of the building doesn't help.

Km-long Line Reported at Bulgarian Voting Poll in London



A line, over one kilometer long, has formed Sunday in London at the voting section for Bulgaria's early general elections, according to outraged Bulgarian expats.

A number of them have posted pictures on Facebook to illustrate the chaos and the frustration.

Actually, there are two lines – one for people who have registered to vote in advance and one for those who must fill a declaration on the spot. The waiting time for the first group is reported as 1 hour, and for the second – over 2.5 hours.

Many expat voters are further confused as, over lack of directions, they have ended in the wrong line.

They write on social networks that the tensions are mounting, and many have given up on the right to cast a ballot and have left.

The unprecedented line was provoked by the fact that the number of voting polls for Bulgarians in England was reduced to just 2 – one at the Bulgarian Embassy in London, and one in Tottenham.

There is also a line of 150 Bulgarians wishing to cast a ballot at the Embassy in Vienna. They are waiting in a pouring rain. 980 Bulgarians in Austria have already voted.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=150302

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Yeah, I guess it's pretty bad when you have only 1 embassy for tens of thousands of expat voters in those cities, when usually there is 1 precinct for every 500-1000 voters in the home country ...

[Tender Branson]

It looks like the main reason for the mile-long wait in London and other Bulgarian embassies around the globe is that turnout there picked up SIGNIFICANTLY in the afternoon for some reason and the embassy folks have to handle a great deal of same-day-registration as well, because many people in the lines did not pre-register and now the embassy-folks have to register them when they want to cast the ballot, which requires some bureaucratic stuff incl. signatures and so on ...

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All the Bulgarian parties want the Roma to find work.

In Western Europe.

Which they are mostly not doing either if they get here ...

In most cases these poor people are pushed into trucks by mafia-like organisations and people traders and transported to Austrian/German cities where they "beg" for money by looking disabled (but when the day is over they walk away like a healthy person etc.), then they go to some empty house/factory building that looks like a trashcan and the next day they are transported by their "supervisors" back to the city center again and the thing starts again ... And the local authorities/police can't do much about it, they can just issue warnings that they will be arrested the next time they encounter them at this property, but can't actually deport them because they are EU citizens. And their puppet masters are actually in Romania/Bulgaria and get most of the money they "beg". A vicious circle in which these poor people are only tools for their puppet masters that need to be jailed.

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Nyes. That exists, of course, but then it has for twenty years (and not only to beg, either - also although the Roma con artists are primarily from Slovakia, not Romania). Legal Roma immigrants from Romania and Bulgaria, come to stay and if possible to work, are much the more recent phenomenon, and if not quite as visible easily outnumber the others by now. Not that the distinction can always be drawn neatly, of course. And not that every German politician is capable of imagining the need to...

This might amuse you, Gmantis... A Titanic-Magazin "letter to the readers" from last month addressed to the federal minister of the interior.

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It seems at least here there is a big focus on the begging Romas who are camping in empty houses and factories and produce a lot of trash that makes the heads of the orderly Austrians who live nearby explode:

http://kurier.at/politik/betteln-in-salzburg-zwischen-mitleid-und-abscheu/809.310

http://salzburg.orf.at/news/stories/2536515

While most other Bulgarians/Romanians/Slovaks - those who are not Romas - actually work in the gastro or care industry.

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Back to the main topic:

EXIT POLLS

29-33% GERB
25-28% Socialists
  9-12% Turkish Party
    7-9% Ataka
    3-4% Kuneva Party

4% is the treshold.

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GMantis, what do you think is a likely coalition if only the 4 parties manage to stay above 4% ?

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today's events

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Hundreds of thousands extra ballots, made by a GERB local councilor, found; BSP leading in some exit polls; things like that.

Ah yeah, that were the two things I was already aware of (after realizing how tall the number of extra ballots was; that somehow escaped me the first time I read it.)

You speak German IIRC; this is how your country gets reported on here:
http://www.fr-online.de/politik/bulgarien-wo-die-sonne-vom-himmel-faellt,1472596,22704722.html

Interesting read from today's Standard (for German-understanders Lewis and GMantis) about a youth welfare official in Vienna that has been "silenced" now and accused of racism for stating a fact (and very likely the truth) about Roma kids and also Afghan kids coming here:

http://derstandard.at/1363710732864/Rassismusvorwurf-Sprechverbot-fuer-Wiener-Jugendamt-Mitarbeiter

[Tender Branson]

96.1% of the votes counted:

30.7% GERB
27.0% Socialists
10.6% Turk Party
  7.4% Ataka
24.3% Others (but none above 4% threshold)

http://results.cik.bg/pi2013/rezultati/index.html

Is it just me or are there no vote totals shown ?