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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2013, 07:54:08 PM »

I don't believe for a minute he walked a minute, much less 45 minutes.

Well if he got the app I told him about, he could friend me and I could confirm his claims...
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2013, 12:45:10 PM »

I can do this easily.  It is well within my realm of capability.

And this is why you should be embarrassed.
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2013, 07:29:46 PM »

Your ideal weight is not 200 lbs. You've stated previosuly that you're about 5'8".   But there's no need to set some distant goal. Focus on doing the right thing now. Do you not have fat clinics in OK? A coworker here goes to one and has lost quite a bit of weight on some sort of stimulant.

Focusing on the scale is stupid.  Ray Rice is 5'8 212. Obviously this is a silly comparison, but it calls to mind the larger idea that the goal should be to feel better.  Losing some weight and being more active will make someone healthier, have more energy and a side benefit that you will look better.

Now this is all moot because it is quite clear that Bushie is already bargaining with himself. The family, the weather and who knows what next week and month (Kenya?)

Yes, we all know that BMI doesn't work for some people.  Jeff doesn't fall into that category.
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2013, 07:42:51 PM »

Your ideal weight is not 200 lbs. You've stated previosuly that you're about 5'8".   But there's no need to set some distant goal. Focus on doing the right thing now. Do you not have fat clinics in OK? A coworker here goes to one and has lost quite a bit of weight on some sort of stimulant.

Focusing on the scale is stupid.  Ray Rice is 5'8 212. Obviously this is a silly comparison, but it calls to mind the larger idea that the goal should be to feel better.  Losing some weight and being more active will make someone healthier, have more energy and a side benefit that you will look better.

Now this is all moot because it is quite clear that Bushie is already bargaining with himself. The family, the weather and who knows what next week and month (Kenya?)

Yes, we all know that BMI doesn't work for some people.  Jeff doesn't fall into that category.

Well this is true because from the sounds of it he is in much worse shape than the BMI would suggest.  General point is say he was a healthy and energetic 230, who cares what the scale might say.

Yeah, sure... but at 230, he won't be healthy and energetic.  His body fat percentage would still be massively higher than it should be.  Unless he magically puts on a bunch of muscle, but that's not likely to happen.
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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2013, 08:47:15 PM »

I will not watch what I eat on my birthday, though, because it is wrong to diet on your birthday, unless you have a medical condition that requires you to do it.

Unless that medical condition is morbid obesity, in which case, you can still say, "Screw it! I want cake!"... Is that really the argument you're making?
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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2013, 09:24:03 PM »

I will not watch what I eat on my birthday, though, because it is wrong to diet on your birthday, unless you have a medical condition that requires you to do it.

Unless that medical condition is morbid obesity, in which case, you can still say, "Screw it! I want cake!"... Is that really the argument you're making?

I'm talking conditions where the doctor has given you a specific diet, such as diabetes or other conditions that restrict what you can eat.  Obesity itself doesn't restrict what you can eat, just that you should restrict what you can eat.  There is a big difference.  Plus, one is required to enjoy themselves on their birthday at all costs even if that includes pigging out.  They only get one birthday a year.

So, to answer your question, Yes. Smiley

Diabetics can still eat things that everyone else can eat; it's all about balancing your sugar intake and insulin levels.  Just because you're diabetic doesn't mean you can't eat cake; it means you shouldn't have the whole damn cake.  And the same goes for obesity.

And if it really was just pigging out on your birthday, that'd be one thing.  But we've come to know you... the next week it'll be something different.  "It's French Canadian Thanksgiving... I can't not eat then."  Then the next week, "My aunt's best friend's grandmother's cousin-in-law is coming to town and cooking for us; I don't want to be rude and not eat."  Then, "My mom made fried stuffed lard balls; that's my favorite meal.  I can't not pig out for that!"
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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2013, 09:26:35 PM »

And, oddly enough, according to the lab results, the doctor said I'm closer to Hypoglycemia than I am to Diabetes.  My lab range was 4.5-6.5.  Anything 4.4 and southis Hypoglycemia, and anything 6.6 and north is diabetes.  My result was a 5.0.  They are going to check my blood sugar again on September 27.

Well, if you keep drifting closer to hypoglycemia, it's possible that you're hyperinsulinemic, which would make sense, since you're overweight.
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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2013, 09:37:32 PM »

Actually, the diabetic "diet" is what the rest of us should be eating regularly. Diabetics aren't on a diet, they are just told by their doctors to eat like the rest of us should.

Exactly.  You SHOULD balance your sugar intake with your insulin, because that's how it is supposed to work, but the body (in non-diabetics) is able to quickly produce insulin in instances where it has to in order to meet demands.

Think of it like a rainy day fund - a family should balance their budget, but if they have an emergency arise, they may have a rainy day fund that they can take from.  But if you raid from the rainy day fund all the time, eventually it won't be there anymore.

Not a perfect analogy, but close enough.
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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2013, 09:39:51 PM »

Diabetics can still eat things that everyone else can eat; it's all about balancing your sugar intake and insulin levels.  Just because you're diabetic doesn't mean you can't eat cake; it means you shouldn't have the whole damn cake.  And the same goes for obesity.

Quite true, but nobody obese or not should eat the whole darn cake.  There is something called self control.  Granted, I don't have much, but I do have enough sense to just eat one slice of cake, two at the very most.

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So start now!  I'm not advocating anything extreme.  I'm not saying don't have cake and ice cream; just don't have too much cake and ice cream.  Start your diet today--there's no point in waiting, because if you keep waiting, you'll never start.
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2013, 01:15:18 AM »

This morning, I weighed in at 271.  4 pounds higher.

Jeff, there are BMI charts that don't even go that high... What the hell are you waiting for?
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2013, 01:33:07 AM »

There's another reason to avoid most pies I've tried. They taste like [inks].

What part of me have you tasted?
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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2013, 02:48:37 PM »

I've reconsidered not weighing myself until the company leaves.

More procrastination and excuses.
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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2013, 03:42:24 PM »

Jeff, stop eating like a pig, go out and walk, and then come home and put in more job applications... get your life in order.
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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2013, 10:06:41 PM »

I am home for the night.  I thought I was done for a week, but I still have one more dinner tomorrow night.  This time, it will be Taco Salad.  I did well tonight, only having one plate.  It was a 5 course meal with Pork Tenderloin, Mashed Potatoes, Corn, Baked Beans, and Dinner Rolls.  I had one small slice of pumpkin pie for dessert, but overall today has been a much better day.  I even made my portion sizes a spoonful or two smaller.  I only had about 8 oz of the meat.

The fact that your portion sizes were (at least) 3 spoonfulls... yikes.

Did you walk today?
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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2013, 10:58:27 PM »

I am home for the night.  I thought I was done for a week, but I still have one more dinner tomorrow night.  This time, it will be Taco Salad.  I did well tonight, only having one plate.  It was a 5 course meal with Pork Tenderloin, Mashed Potatoes, Corn, Baked Beans, and Dinner Rolls.  I had one small slice of pumpkin pie for dessert, but overall today has been a much better day.  I even made my portion sizes a spoonful or two smaller.  I only had about 8 oz of the meat.

The fact that your portion sizes were (at least) 3 spoonfulls... yikes.

Did you walk today?

Having just one or two spoonfuls of mashed potatoes and the other sides will not cut it.  I eat so I can feel full.  If I had just one spoonful, I would be starving after dinner, which is unacceptable, and would be counterproductive as I would go back later for more unhealthy stuff.

I did not take a walk today, I didn't have time as I was visiting with family from 11:00 am through 7:45 pm when I left.  I only get to see them once a year, so I was not about to interrupt our conversations just to take a walk.  I was brought up to believe that others, especially your family, are more important than yourself even when it comes to health, so when family comes in, you need to spend time with them.  Absolutely no one is allowed to call the way I was raised wrong or obsolete.  No one is ever allowed to say that.

You need 3 spoons of mashed potatoes to be full?  If you drink more, this will fill your stomach, making you feel full.

You didn't have time, yet you had time to post 10 posts on the forum today.  You came on at 9:53 and posted until 10:43.  That's plenty of time to walk.

I didn't say you had to ignore your family, but if you were raised to be 270 pounds and sit around for an hour on the Internet when you could be walking, that's wrong.  If you were raised to eat 3 spoons of mashed potatoes as part of your meal, when you're 270 pounds, that's wrong.

But I doubt you were raised that way.  If you really were raised that way, then your parents did a horrible job at parenting.  But I don't think you were raised that way.  I think this is you making excuses for yourself.

Get off your fat, lazy butt and actually go for a walk... every day.  It's not hard--I promise.  You WILL keep making excuses unless you change, and I'd be willing to bet that you'll be dead by the age of 60 if you don't start making some major changes.

Stop spooning 3 spoons of mashed potatoes.  Drink lots of water, especially with your meal and after.  That will make you feel full and keep you from eating.

I mean, if you're not going to change, why do you even go to the doctor?  What's the point?  A little bit of fish oil isn't going to save you, and how much is it costing you?  If you don't care how long you live, then that's fine... but in that case, spend your money gorging yourself on bacon and lard so you can at least live a happy, overweight life instead of wasting your money on fish oil pills pretending that you're actually trying.
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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2013, 11:32:37 PM »

You misconstrued what I said (which is normal, I guess).  I never said I was raised to sit on my butt and play on the Internet, rather I was raised to treat other people and the relationships with them, especially your own family, as more important than yourself even when it comes to your health.  I was born in the 1980's, but I was raised in a 1930's and 1940's mentality where relationships were the key to survival.  Oh, by the way, the 1930's mentality is NOT obsolete and should be brought back at all costs.  It is so much better than the 2010's mentality.

I posted on the forum while I was visiting with my family.  It's something called a tablet.

Wait a minute...

You're honestly telling me that you think it is more rude to tell your family, "I'll be back in 30 minutes; I'm going to take my daily walk" than it is to sit and play with an iPad while you are "visiting" with your family?  That's the most backwards, messed up thing I've heard all day.

No, Jeff, playing on a tablet when you're supposed to be "visiting" is the rude thing to do between those 2 choices.
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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2013, 11:33:57 PM »

You need 3 spoons of mashed potatoes to be full?

Inks, a "spoon" isn't really a standard unit of measurement, is it?  We have no idea what quantity Bushie is referring to when he talks about eating "3 spoons of mashed potatoes".  How big are the spoons?  Bushie should clearly weigh every meal he eats (or measure its volume with water displacement) and report back to us.


I'm guessing it's on the bigger side, rather than the smaller side.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2013, 11:35:31 PM »

Have you forgotten that I am not paying anything for my medication?  Those fish oil pills are not costing me a dime.  The blood pressure medicine, not a dime.  The Tourette's medicine, not a penny.  The anti-inflammatory, not a thing.  The only thing I have to pay for is the gas going to and from the pharmacy which is 45 miles round trip.

There's not even a copay?  Oh - that's lovely... the Indians are subsidizing all of your poor habits.  You should be even more ashamed then.
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« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2013, 12:59:41 AM »

Absolutely no one is allowed to call the way I was raised wrong or obsolete.  No one is ever allowed to say that.

I think the way you were raised is wrong and obsolete. Oops.

No... I don't believe this is how they raised him.  Rules of Southern Hospitality don't say that you can't take a walk while visiting with your family, but you can sit and play with your iPad for an hour.
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« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2013, 01:20:28 AM »

Absolutely no one is allowed to call the way I was raised wrong or obsolete.  No one is ever allowed to say that.

I think the way you were raised is wrong and obsolete. Oops.

No... I don't believe this is how they raised him.  Rules of Southern Hospitality don't say that you can't take a walk while visiting with your family, but you can sit and play with your iPad for an hour.

Of course it's BS, but most things he tells us are. I just felt the urge to do the forbidden!

Well you should be more careful next time... you might drive him over the edge, leading him to lock the thread... FOR A WHOLE WEEK!  GASP!!!!!!
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« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2013, 07:58:43 AM »

You misconstrued what I said (which is normal, I guess).  I never said I was raised to sit on my butt and play on the Internet, rather I was raised to treat other people and the relationships with them, especially your own family, as more important than yourself even when it comes to your health.  I was born in the 1980's, but I was raised in a 1930's and 1940's mentality where relationships were the key to survival.  Oh, by the way, the 1930's mentality is NOT obsolete and should be brought back at all costs.  It is so much better than the 2010's mentality.

I posted on the forum while I was visiting with my family.  It's something called a tablet.

Wait a minute...

You're honestly telling me that you think it is more rude to tell your family, "I'll be back in 30 minutes; I'm going to take my daily walk" than it is to sit and play with an iPad while you are "visiting" with your family?  That's the most backwards, messed up thing I've heard all day.

No, Jeff, playing on a tablet when you're supposed to be "visiting" is the rude thing to do between those 2 choices.

His Dad has to work 28 out of 30 days this month (for obvious reasons).  I doubt anyone thinks he's rude for not hanging out all day with the family.

The way he regards his parents is just mind-blowing....
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« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2013, 08:40:28 AM »

And I already know how Jeff will respond when he comes on today... he'll walk back his statements a bit and concede some points (the typical, "You guys are right, but...") and then move on to a different topic, not addressing anything substantial that was said.
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« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2013, 09:50:24 AM »

Jeff, if you had time to be on the forum, you had time to walk.  It really is that simple.  It doesn't matter how long your family was there... that's not relevant at all.
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« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2013, 09:59:08 AM »

I'm just curious - can you describe what spending nine hours means? Is it nine hours of sitting around, talking? I don't know what I would do that would have me continually in their presence.

I couldn't hang with my family for 9 minutes, much less 9 hours.  He's a warrior, that Bushie.

Is it that you couldn't hang out with your family for 9 minutes, or they couldn't hang out with you for 9 minutes? Tongue
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« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2013, 10:43:50 AM »

Jeff, if you had time to be on the forum, you had time to walk.  It really is that simple.  It doesn't matter how long your family was there... that's not relevant at all.

That is exactly what I'm saying.  If I was over there for 9 hours, that leaves 15 hours.  24-9 = 15, no?

Plans have changed a little bit for today.  Instead of having dinner with the family, we will just have lunch together and then my family from Kansas City will leave after lunch to get out ahead of the weather that's supposed to come in later this afternoon and evening.  So, I should be home by ~13:00, so that's plenty of time to take a walk this afternoon.

My point is that your family time shouldn't even be part of an equation... it's entirely irrelevant.  Don't worry about adding or subtracting anything.  Just walk.
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