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Octowakandi
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« on: December 17, 2017, 01:20:49 AM »

Plus some updates from last week:

Guillier closed his campaign with an event with Jose Mujica (former president of Uruguay) and received some international endorsements (Pedro Sanchez and Jeremy Corbyn). Piņera received the endorsement of Macri and said that he received the endorsement from Patch Adams, but the celebrity said in he would never endorse Piņera and his policies, truly weird all that.

Piņera really got desperate during these last weeks, his campaign was a disaster compared to the first round. Guillier's wasn't stellar, but he closed in a good shape with Mujica.
I expected he was done after underperforming his polls by so much. Sounds like he's just not a very exciting guy and may lose by a pretty large margin. Macri must feel pretty alone as far as South American center right presidents go.
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 10:41:27 AM »

Plus some updates from last week:

Guillier closed his campaign with an event with Jose Mujica (former president of Uruguay) and received some international endorsements (Pedro Sanchez and Jeremy Corbyn). Piņera received the endorsement of Macri and said that he received the endorsement from Patch Adams, but the celebrity said in he would never endorse Piņera and his policies, truly weird all that.

Piņera really got desperate during these last weeks, his campaign was a disaster compared to the first round. Guillier's wasn't stellar, but he closed in a good shape with Mujica.
I expected he was done after underperforming his polls by so much. Sounds like he's just not a very exciting guy and may lose by a pretty large margin. Macri must feel pretty alone as far as South American center right presidents go.
idk, I don't think that Piņera is an unexciting politician, he seems the only right-of-center politician capable of winning more than 50% of the chilean electorate, I really don't see any other politician capable of that. Guillier is the opposite, his campaign has lacked of anything exciting.

The problem I think is that the right overplayed their cards in this election, they are (also their electorate) desperate to defeat the government and stop the reforms and they though that the unpopularity of the Bachelet meant that the people supported that program, but actually the people who rejected the reforms as a whole was just a fraction (and seems not a big one) and the people got scared with the right being more vocal about their intentions.

And yes, Macri must feels alone, specially with PPK's  corruption scandal in Peru (interesting that it isn't a thread about this, because impeachment and new elections seems likely).

Speaking of Peru, it kind of reminds me of the 1990 election where you also had the right getting a little overconfident and pressing an unpopular neoliberal reform package which led to an outsider who was ambiguously opposed to it winning the election to everyone's surprise which I strongly suspect may happen here. Of course, that outsider in Peru's name was Alberto Fujimori and he ended up doing those neoliberal reforms anyway as well as become a dictator so a bit of a wash.

That Peru situation is interesting though as you've got the Fujimorists and the left uniting to throw out PKK. I've heard from others that the first Vice President, Vizcarra, will likely decline the Presidency due to his association with the disaster of Chincheros Airport and the second VP Araoz would get it. What's the procedure for early elections? Does it happen if the president is removed or does the VP serve out the full term? And will be interesting to see how Keiko runs this time around since she can go "I told you so."
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 04:50:29 PM »

Little surprised by this. I guess you can never overestimate the capability of the left to eat their own.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2017, 05:22:03 PM »

Who knows. Pinera was also quite unpopular when he left office and now he's back. Maybe Bachelet and Pinera are doomed to fight and succeed each other forever
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2017, 06:07:39 PM »

After the elections earlier in the year in Ecuador where the left consolidated around their candidate to stop the right in the second round, I just expected that would be the norm and would occur again. It's probably unfair though to compare the outgoing administration of Correa who was reasonably popular to Bachelet who was anything but.
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