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Joey1996
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« on: March 07, 2018, 04:43:06 PM »
« edited: March 07, 2018, 04:44:57 PM by TexasGurl »

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 07:13:58 PM »

Am I the only one reading this a different way?

To me he's saying that the Jews believe there is a historical, religious justification for their ownership of the land while Palestinians come from a different tradition and dont believe what the Jews believe....so thats why theres conflict.


There is a video attached to the tweet, watch it.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 07:19:23 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2018, 07:22:35 PM by Joey1996 »

Again there is a video attached to this tweet which I guess you have to click the tweet to see. Far worse than the one-off quote.

Here's a transcript of what he said in the clip: https://twitter.com/_Saeen_/status/971277911201378304?s=19
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 07:24:53 PM »

Schumer's position that Palestinians don't believe a Jewish state should exist nullifies his stance on a two-state solution and places all of the blame in the conflict on Palestinians. He sounds like a right-wing extremist.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2018, 01:07:57 AM »

My opinion on Schumer's Palestine comments:



Not Israel expanding its borders through illegal settlements or systematically oppressing Arabs, Africans and Mizrahi Jews... or Saudi Arabia bombing innocent children in Yemen and spreading salafism throughout the region... or Turkey treating Kurds worse than 2nd class citizens... or the United States' endless war campaign in the region... no it's Palestinians who are to blame for the lack of peace in Middle East.....

And then people like you will turn around and say you support a two state solution.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2018, 11:34:55 AM »

Schumer's position that Palestinians don't believe a Jewish state should exist nullifies his stance on a two-state solution and places all of the blame in the conflict on Palestinians. He sounds like a right-wing extremist.
but....most Palestinians (and nearly everybody else in the area) don't believe that a Jewish state should exist.  How would Schumer's position on that fact change anything at all?  And how does parroting what the other side says make him sound like an extremist?

And someone can say that most Israelis believe Palestinians don't exist, and that they belong in Jordan. It's nonsense to attribute a hive-mind to any particular group, and it is antithetical of having support for a two-state solution.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2018, 11:36:52 AM »

New York democrats please primary him.
This isn't primary-able action, lol. At least, it ought not to be.

NY has a large Arab population, he just said Arabs are the problem in the Middle East. There are plenty of people who will vote against him.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2018, 11:56:05 AM »

New York democrats please primary him.
This isn't primary-able action, lol. At least, it ought not to be.

NY has a large Arab population, he just said Arabs are the problem in the Middle East. There are plenty of people who will vote against him.
His next primary is in 2022. How many would vote based off a 5-year-old remark? And even if that number is sizable, how does it get high enough to actually make Schumer lose?

Because old remarks resurface? And there are plenty of other factors which would result in him losing. Either way he should be primaried.
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2018, 12:39:12 PM »

New York democrats please primary him.
This isn't primary-able action, lol. At least, it ought not to be.

NY has a large Arab population, he just said Arabs are the problem in the Middle East. There are plenty of people who will vote against him.
His next primary is in 2022. How many would vote based off a 5-year-old remark? And even if that number is sizable, how does it get high enough to actually make Schumer lose?

Because old remarks resurface? And there are plenty of other factors which would result in him losing. Either way he should be primaried.
I have a positive opinion of Schumer's advocacy on behalf of his state in the US Senate and his constituents, so I don't really think he deserves to primaried.
Not to mention the fact that he is a politically powerful player, knows his state well, and knows how to not just be re-elected, but get re-elected by landslides. I think he probably has his seat till he retires.

I wonder how his Arab constituents feel.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2018, 12:43:19 PM »

Imagine if Mitch McConnell went to a conference for the Fraternal Order of Police and said "Let me tell you why we don't have peace in the inner-cities, it's because most blacks don't think there should be police there, they come up with other reasons but that's the truth."
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2018, 01:53:31 PM »

Palestinians have been throwing rocks at Israeli's since I was a boy, and 40 years later, nothing seems to have changed.

Yep. For 40 years Israel has occupied Palestine. Coincidence?

Are you even a Republican on a single issue

Since when is acknowledging that both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist in a two-state solution a solely Democratic position, or anti Republican?

Frankly, beep boop, I'm more concerned whether or not any position I take is the just thing to support, not whether it supports a particular party or not. You demonstrate the same Independence on various issues such as stopping Obamacare. Surely you understand?

Yes I opposed the Repeal of Obamacare, but the Repeal of Obamacare was solely a partisan Republican position and the Affordable Care Act was originally a Republican idea in the 90s and first implemented statewide by a Republican(Republicans only opposed it cause a Dem President supported it). 

On the other hand, this issue only far left democrats are on Palestine's side over Israel and only far left Democrats believe Israel is more to blame than Palestine. Most Moderate Democrats and Republicans, on the other hand are fully on the side of Israel .



"Being on Israel's side" means you oppose a two-state solution?
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2018, 01:59:21 PM »

Some of the anti-Israel posters here are being ridiculous.


A statement about the Palestinian government = a statement about all Arabs? Really?

I don't take offense if someone opposes the Indian government, and my family's from there. Why would Arab-Americans (many of whom are not even from Palestine) take offense if Schumer doesn't like the Palestinian government?

and btw, the Palestinian government does not believe that Israel should exist, so I'm not sure what's wrong there, either.

Where did you hear anything about the Plaestinian Authority? He clearly said "most Palestinians and Arabs" believe that way. Much like Trump said most Mexicans are rapists and murderers, no where did he say only the Palestinian Authority, which recognizes Israel anyway.
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