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Huckleberry Finn
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« on: September 04, 2004, 04:08:18 PM »

Liberal means an American liberal-concept here! In European concepts that means most socialist.

It's Sweden.

Well, I meant Western Europe including new EU-members. In a scale of whole Europe Belarussia is most socialist, but it's no way liberal in any case!
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 02:47:49 PM »

Are you proud to live in this countries that steal so much of your hard earned money.
Yes and no.

There are both good and bad sides in the "welfare society". You should understand what kind of benefits are things like "free" healhcare and free higher education.

You're probably saving money for your children college costs? You have also told that you have worries concerning your family healthcare insurance. In Finland you probably would pay more taxes, but you could forget things like college or healh insurance  payments.

We should do a little calculation. All Americans can tell here how much they earn and how much they pay taxes/health insurance payments. Then I can tell how much you would pay in Finland.  

However, I tend to favour more free market solutions especially in the our healthcare system. And yes, we have too high taxes and our government uses money too generously. You can't even imagine all those benefits which people here can get!!! I would delete or descrease most of them, but retain the healtcare and the education.

Finland is probably most economically conservative country in the list btw. Even a current centre-left government is decreasing taxes. Of course not that much than consevatives would do.
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2004, 03:33:05 PM »

Are you proud to live in this countries that steal so much of your hard earned money.

Yes.
I get 35 days paid holiday a year, free health care, paid sick leave and work a 39 hour week. Plus I live in a country with the best comedy and music in the world, lovely country pubs and picturesque villages. Not to mention the best city in the world (London).
The only downers to life in Britain is rain, the class system and yobs.

I get 33 days paid holiday a year (two weeks vacation, two weeks Christmas Bonus and five holiday days, whether I work them or not), I get 12 days of paid sick leave a year, full pay. I work a four days a week with a average of 42 hours. My healthcare costs 50 a week for my whole family and I make 35k a year. I think we are comparable. Smiley Maybe you make more then me, I imagine you do cause I think I'm the poorest forumite here. Tongue And we have warm weather year round to boot..so Tongue. Smiley
33 days paid holiday sounds great.

I will post your Finnish tax percent later. Now I am too tired to seeking it.
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2004, 02:50:42 PM »

Are you proud to live in this countries that steal so much of your hard earned money.

Yes.
I get 35 days paid holiday a year, free health care, paid sick leave and work a 39 hour week. Plus I live in a country with the best comedy and music in the world, lovely country pubs and picturesque villages. Not to mention the best city in the world (London).
The only downers to life in Britain is rain, the class system and yobs.

I get 33 days paid holiday a year (two weeks vacation, two weeks Christmas Bonus and five holiday days, whether I work them or not), I get 12 days of paid sick leave a year, full pay. I work a four days a week with a average of 42 hours. My healthcare costs 50 a week for my whole family and I make 35k a year. I think we are comparable. Smiley Maybe you make more then me, I imagine you do cause I think I'm the poorest forumite here. Tongue And we have warm weather year round to boot..so Tongue. Smiley
You tax percent in Finland were roughly 30-35. How much it is in America?
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2004, 03:36:26 PM »

Are you proud to live in this countries that steal so much of your hard earned money.

Yes.
I get 35 days paid holiday a year, free health care, paid sick leave and work a 39 hour week. Plus I live in a country with the best comedy and music in the world, lovely country pubs and picturesque villages. Not to mention the best city in the world (London).
The only downers to life in Britain is rain, the class system and yobs.

I get 33 days paid holiday a year (two weeks vacation, two weeks Christmas Bonus and five holiday days, whether I work them or not), I get 12 days of paid sick leave a year, full pay. I work a four days a week with a average of 42 hours. My healthcare costs 50 a week for my whole family and I make 35k a year. I think we are comparable. Smiley Maybe you make more then me, I imagine you do cause I think I'm the poorest forumite here. Tongue And we have warm weather year round to boot..so Tongue. Smiley
You tax percent in Finland were roughly 30-35. How much it is in America?

My tax is 10%.
Okey. I surrender. You won.

But I have to check it again. I didn't calculate an exchange rate very accurately. I only counted that 35k dollars is 35K euros. The exchange rate was that about years ago, but has changed since. But I'm pretty sure that in Finland you tax percent wouldn't be lower than 25. We should also notice that costs of living and wages aren't same in Finland and Florida.
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2004, 03:08:43 PM »

Are you proud to live in this countries that steal so much of your hard earned money.

Yes.
I get 35 days paid holiday a year, free health care, paid sick leave and work a 39 hour week. Plus I live in a country with the best comedy and music in the world, lovely country pubs and picturesque villages. Not to mention the best city in the world (London).
The only downers to life in Britain is rain, the class system and yobs.

I get 33 days paid holiday a year (two weeks vacation, two weeks Christmas Bonus and five holiday days, whether I work them or not), I get 12 days of paid sick leave a year, full pay. I work a four days a week with a average of 42 hours. My healthcare costs 50 a week for my whole family and I make 35k a year. I think we are comparable. Smiley Maybe you make more then me, I imagine you do cause I think I'm the poorest forumite here. Tongue And we have warm weather year round to boot..so Tongue. Smiley
You tax percent in Finland were roughly 30-35. How much it is in America?

My tax is 10%.

How can your tax only be 10%?  Are you counting payroll taxes?  I'm sure the tax rate Huck Finn is quoting also includes whatever their Social Security equivalent is.
Yes I did. And I still think that States' tax percent would be about 30-35. Which is too much of course.
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