Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread

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Yuck.

DOA.

Anyone who thinks Bernie is DOA is seriously letting their bias cloud their judgment, he’s possibly one of the biggest and most competitive people to throw their name in other than possibly Biden.

Okay? That’s a weird response. Point stands.

Weird response? I'm laugh at the nonsense that you're spewing. Bernie is going nowhere expect to his home to take a nap.

So the man who consistently polls 15-30% in a crowded field and won 45% against the all but declared nominee in 2016 with a huge base of donors, supporters and campaign staff all lined up for him is “going nowhere”.

I don’t think I’m the one spewing nonsense. But sure, enjoy your gifs and quips.

Those polls are just name recognition.

If Bernie couldn't win win in 2016, he won't win in 2020. Also, since the field is much larger it will dilute the super progressive vote (Warren primarily). Additionally, if Biden runs, it's even more of a wrap for Cranky Old St. Bernard.

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Realignment imminent

The next FDR !

LOL, in your dreams.

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Bernie or Bust, 2020! Baby!

Please for the love of everything that is good, I hope this is not a serious movement in 2020.

Also:

Hard pass

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I dont get why everyone is so opposed to his candidacy.

He is old and a lot of people don't like the way he conducted himself when he was mathematically eliminated from the nomination. We don't owe him anything. I'd like to leave the 2016 primary in the past. He would be a terrible president anyway. Warren would be much more competent.

I should have phrased that differently. I dont know why an overrepresented amount of people on Twitter and Atlas seem to oppose his candidacy. Polling would disagree with your statement.

Also, while Warren is a pretty good policy wonk, she has the charisma of a brick(this is coming from one of her adoring constituents). If the Left is depending on Warren to be the standard bearer, then the Left has a problem.

Polling is just name recognition. It doesn't mean anything.

Sanders is not winning the primary and he's not going to get close to winning.

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I dont get why everyone is so opposed to his candidacy.

He is old and a lot of people don't like the way he conducted himself when he was mathematically eliminated from the nomination. We don't owe him anything. I'd like to leave the 2016 primary in the past. He would be a terrible president anyway. Warren would be much more competent.

I should have phrased that differently. I dont know why an overrepresented amount of people on Twitter and Atlas seem to oppose his candidacy. Polling would disagree with your statement.

Also, while Warren is a pretty good policy wonk, she has the charisma of a brick(this is coming from one of her adoring constituents). If the Left is depending on Warren to be the standard bearer, then the Left has a problem.

Polling is just name recognition. It doesn't mean anything.

Sanders is not winning the primary and he's not going to get close to winning.

The arguement of "Name Rec" is starting to fall apart, especially when you look at the current name rec numbers.

Ill be using the most recent Morning Consult numbers:


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Biden- about 5%
Sanders- about 5%
Harris- 21%
Warren- 14%
Booker- 27%
Beto- 33%

At this point, most of the challengers are getting pretty well known, and still, the numbers havent really changed besides the increase by Harris. We havent seen them debate and campaign, but that could also have a positive or negative effect on both Biden and Sanders' campaign.

So no, its not just name rec.

I also dont see how Sanders isnt going to win. He has one of the better starts in the primary, and a much easier coalition he can piece together due to how the delegate system works.

Just...LOL.

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Here we f**king go again.

Why couldn't Bernie do the world a favor and leave us alone?

Trump would demolish this fool in the general.

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Watching Atlas maroon avatars throw a fit when Bernie loses the primary will be GLORIOUS!

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Bernie once again trying to court the elusive "White working class" is exactly why he lost the primary in 2016 not because it was rigged.

Focusing on predominantly White and very rural states and not focusing on the base of Democratic Party combined with the fact that there are much more candidates running is exactly why Bernie's campaign will fail just like it did in 2016.

I can't wait to never have to here about Bernie Sanders ever again. It will be a blessing!

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Bernie has received the Trump endorsement lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1097950204777689089

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Bernie once again trying to court the elusive "White working class" is exactly why he lost the primary in 2016 not because it was rigged.

Focusing on predominantly White and very rural states and not focusing on the base of Democratic Party combined with the fact that there are much more candidates running is exactly why Bernie's campaign will fail just like it did in 2016.

I can't wait to never have to here about Bernie Sanders ever again. It will be a blessing!

Or Bernie can just scoot by winning 30-40% of the vote in states while Booker, Harris, Klobuchar, Biden and O'Rourke all eat away at each other.

(pssst, it's how Trump won the GOP primary in 2016)

It's not gonna work that way. There are a lot of anti-Bernie Democrats that will consolidate to not let that happen.

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I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same as almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

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I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

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I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

You’re a troll because you can ask with a straight face how Sanders platform is different from, for instance, Joe Biden or Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar.

And for dismissing the candidate with perhaps, as of right now, the best chance at becoming the Democratic nominee (in an obviously crowded and chaotic field).

Joe Biden isn't even running (yet).

Most other Democrats running especially Kamala and Warren have almost the same platform as Bernie.

There's nothing special about Bernie and my dislike for him doesn't make me a troll. Don't even try that troll garbage with me. I don't play that game.

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Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

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I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same as almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

Tell me, who was the person who supported all of those policies back in 2015? Was it Hillary Clinton?

Hillary platform adopted 88% of Bernie's platform. Bernie did change the narrative and that's good.

However, his and his insufferable supporters (many not all of them) will throw the same tantrum that they did in 2016 when he once again loses the primary in 2020.

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Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President.

I'm glad you support Sanders for President

Bernie would literally turn 80 years in his first year in office if he were to (unfortunately) be elected President.

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Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

How old is too old then? This isn't as black and white as so may seem. Attacking him on his age is fair but it's not as simple as "Bernie is too old". If 80 is old, what about 70? Where do you draw the line?

I don't know.

If the best person the U.S. has to be President is an 80 year old man, then thats not a good thing.

The intensity and enormity of being President would not be healthy for an 80 year old man. Look at what the presiency did to Clinton and Obama and they were both relatively young and healthy (as President).

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I looked at Bernie's platform and basically it's the same of almost all of the other Democratic candidates.

Why is Bernie different? What makes him special?

He's just an egotistical and narcissistic old man that will NEVER be President no matter how hard he tries.

I’m pretty damn convinced you’re a troll now.

Please. I'm a troll because I don't like Bernie?

You're gonna be surprised to see how Bernie's campaign crashes and fails like it did in 2016.

You’re a troll because you can ask with a straight face how Sanders platform is different from, for instance, Joe Biden or Cory Booker or Amy Klobuchar.

And for dismissing the candidate with perhaps, as of right now, the best chance at becoming the Democratic nominee (in an obviously crowded and chaotic field).

Joe Biden isn't even running (yet).

Most other Democrats running especially Kamala and Warren have almost the same platform as Bernie.

There's nothing special about Bernie and my dislike for him doesn't make me a troll. Don't even try that troll garbage with me. I don't play that game.

Yeah, I’m not playing into your concern trolling and disingenuous attacks on Bernie.

Glad to see I’ve got you so triggered though tough guy.  

Enjoy the next year as Bernie continues to be a formidable contender and grow his campaign. ( :

Curious to see what historic levels of fundraising Bernie accomplishes in 24 hours, too.

Concerned trolling? Where was I concern trolling?

You're Exhibit A on why so many people don't like Bernie supporters more than Bernie himself.

Bernie is going to crash and burn. I don't care how much money he raises, it's all going to waste.

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Hope other candidates bring up the age issue directly and don't dance around it. Would you trust a 79 year old surgeon to perform on you? Like the President they also make life and death decisions.

Age is just a number. He seems to be in good health overall. Of course it isn’t ideal but it’s not a deal breaker.

No, 80 year old should be President. Being President is not like a regular job.

How old is too old then? This isn't as black and white as so may seem. Attacking him on his age is fair but it's not as simple as "Bernie is too old". If 80 is old, what about 70? Where do you draw the line?

I don't know.

If the best person the U.S. has to be President is an 80 year old man, then thats not a good thing.

The intensity and enormity of being President would not be healthy for an 80 year old man. Look at what the presiency did to Clinton and Obama and they were both relatively young and healthy (as President).

The Malaysian Prime Minister and Tunisian President were democratically elected and are in their 90s. Bernie is absolutely the best person for President in 2020. We'll see about 2024 when that comes up.

LOL, you again with this ridiculous argument. Just because Malaysia and Tunisia did it doesn't make it OK.

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There appears to be a very loud yet tiny minority on the left that regurgitates neoliberal media talking points, they seem to have a strong presence on this board, but ultimately I believe sanders will sweep this primary in a trumpian fashion.

It truly baffles me how Bernie bros will ignore all polls and facts all to protect their dear Saint Bernard. Bernie's path involves winning narrowly in a split primary, he will not be dominating and I think you know that, lol.

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https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1099380342018912257

Good on Bernie for standing against dictators. Shame most of the responses are deranged tankie maniacs who are now calling Bernie a pawn of Dick Cheney. Socialist apologism for Maduro is disgusting.

Those comments are disgusting. I'm not surprised though.

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Gonna say it now: If Biden doesn't run (and maybe still if he does) Bernie will win decisively.
  
His only real opponent on his political wing is Warren and she is polling at what? 8 percent? Harris, Booker, Gillibrand, etc will take away each others votes. Bernie knows how to run a campaign, has much better infrastructure and more experience, a better staff than last time, fantastic name recognition and favorability, staggering numbers in terms of both donations and supporters and maybe most importantly as Trump has proven his core base can really make a difference in a crowded field. Oh and seriously Harris would be washed away in a head to head match up. How does she wanna attack him? "Your ideas and goals are so horrible and unrealistic that I copied them!"...?

This comment is a joke.

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Gonna say it now: If Biden doesn't run (and maybe still if he does) Bernie will win decisively.
  
His only real opponent on his political wing is Warren and she is polling at what? 8 percent? Harris, Booker, Gillibrand, etc will take away each others votes. Bernie knows how to run a campaign, has much better infrastructure and more experience, a better staff than last time, fantastic name recognition and favorability, staggering numbers in terms of both donations and supporters and maybe most importantly as Trump has proven his core base can really make a difference in a crowded field. Oh and seriously Harris would be washed away in a head to head match up. How does she wanna attack him? "Your ideas and goals are so horrible and unrealistic that I copied them!"...?

This comment is a joke.

So is the Anointed One winning in a landslide like you people fantasize about.

There is no "Anointed One". Also, no Kamala supporter has said that she will win in a landslide.

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Gonna say it now: If Biden doesn't run (and maybe still if he does) Bernie will win decisively.
  
His only real opponent on his political wing is Warren and she is polling at what? 8 percent? Harris, Booker, Gillibrand, etc will take away each others votes. Bernie knows how to run a campaign, has much better infrastructure and more experience, a better staff than last time, fantastic name recognition and favorability, staggering numbers in terms of both donations and supporters and maybe most importantly as Trump has proven his core base can really make a difference in a crowded field. Oh and seriously Harris would be washed away in a head to head match up. How does she wanna attack him? "Your ideas and goals are so horrible and unrealistic that I copied them!"...?

This comment is a joke.

So is the Anointed One winning in a landslide like you people fantasize about.

There is no "Anointed One". Also, no Kamala supporter has said that she will win in a landslide.

They're desperate to make her the next Hillary.

Well given that anyone who criticises her is more less told to shut up and get back in line . . .

Sounds much more like Bernie supporters.

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LOL, Bernie supporters excusing the fact that he had a smaller crowd size despite the fact that Brooklyn has a much larger population than Oakland.

Also, the snow storm was a NOT a huge problem yesterday so don't even try to use that excuse. Bernie lost Brooklyn to Hillary in 2016 and he will lose Brooklyn again in 2020.

He should have announced in Burlington, VT.