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« on: July 22, 2007, 08:12:06 PM »


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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2007, 10:54:49 PM »

I don't really see what the big deal over Biden and the gun control question was.  He probably should've been more polite, but that guy clearly had a screw loose or two.
Even if you think he was way off, I don't see how a single gaffe can make you lose all of your respect for someone...everyone says dumb things from time to time, and most of us aren't under the pressure the candidates were under.


Anyhow, all of the candidates did a great job.  I really enjoyed the format.

I like where Biden stands on some things and he always has seemed to me to be one of the more knowledgeable and competent senators. But one think I always respect in a politician, or anyone for that matter, is civility. even though I don’t agree with him on everything, I’m supporting Ron Paul, because he has always struck me as a man who can disagree with someone but still be amicable to the person.  Biden’s quip just made him seem rude to me, and I lost some respect for him. Would I consider voting for him still? Most definitely, but any person who has to resort to demeaning another person, even one with an “extreme position” is not really fit to be President, IMHO. I’m sure Kucinich disagreed with the guy as well, but I highly doubt he would have responded in the same manner.

Biden has a problem with speaking his mind a bit too much (the gun comment, the comment about Kucinich's wife, and the statement about Indians working at 7/11 and Dunkin Donuts).  However, I believe that speaking his mind will ultimately help Biden because he's willing to tell it how it is.

There was no "telling it like it is" when it comes to that gun comment. He just wanted to be an asshole and throw a cheap shot for ten seconds of applause.

So someone who refers to their gun as their baby doesn't deserve ridicule? You don;t have to support gun control to see such a statement as absurd and dependent.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2007, 11:01:13 PM »



So someone who refers to their gun as their baby doesn't deserve ridicule? You don;t have to support gun control to see such a statement as absurd and dependent.

Why should it be any different than the amount of people that call their car their baby? I know plenty of people that do so (friends of mine especially) and while I think it is stupid, they don't deserve ridicule. Give me a break. Joe Biden is a notoriously nasty person who was only looking to throw a cheap shot. The guy is a joke.

Well, a good part of it was the tone, but I would say that someone who calls their car their baby also deserves ridicule for putting way too emotion into a relationship with an inanimate object.

But, you're right, Biden is a nasty piece of work. If he didn't have a temper to rival John Bolton,  I might consider supporting him.
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