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andjey
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« on: July 18, 2019, 12:38:57 PM »

I do not want to see the Servant of the people in the coalition for many reasons, but this party will be there unambiguously
The best coalition for me would be the Servant of the People, Fatherland, Strenght and Honor
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andjey
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2019, 12:43:04 PM »

Looks like the only interesting thing to watch is whether Sich or Golos gets in. I imagine Ze-kom is hoping for the latter, since they more likely than not won't get a majority and they already said they won't coalition with Tymoshenko. Vakarchuk embarrassed himself in the debate, but he probably still has an edge there.

Whatever the results, the way this election has shaped up does not make me optimistic. Ze's list, and especially candidates for SMDs, are full of people with old connections, and the real Maidan activists have almost entirely been removed from the political sphere.

Where did you find information that the Servant of the People gave up the coalition with Tymoshenko?
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andjey
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2019, 05:52:52 AM »

Looks like the only interesting thing to watch is whether Sich or Golos gets in. I imagine Ze-kom is hoping for the latter, since they more likely than not won't get a majority and they already said they won't coalition with Tymoshenko. Vakarchuk embarrassed himself in the debate, but he probably still has an edge there.

Whatever the results, the way this election has shaped up does not make me optimistic. Ze's list, and especially candidates for SMDs, are full of people with old connections, and the real Maidan activists have almost entirely been removed from the political sphere.

Where did you find information that the Servant of the People gave up the coalition with Tymoshenko?

I actually heard it secondhand via a speaker at an event I was at, but looking around the news sphere, it looks like the probably initial source for her was an anonymous source inside the party who has been talking to various news sources. As examples:

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Однако любая коалиция предполагает встречные условия со стороны партнера, а это создает дополнительные сложности для партии президента. Несмотря на то что «Батькивщина» идет по опросам на третьем месте, союз с желающей вернуться на пост премьера Юлией Тимошенко собеседник в «Слуге народа» называет одной из самых нежелательных конфигураций для партии. «С ней мы вряд ли сможем конструктивно сотрудничать. Если она будет выставлять условием премьерский пост, коалиция практически невозможна», — объясняет он.

«Слуга народа» считает минусами «личностные психологические особенности Юлии Владимировны (она не делится властью)», а также «недостаточно четко артикулированную позицию по вопросам отношений с ЕС, НАТО, Россией и по экономическим реформам». Главным преимуществом лидера «Батькивщины» собеседник РБК в «Слуге народа» называет опыт и глубокое понимание работы политических механизмов.

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"Коалиция должна быть 226+. Но для многих решений, вроде неприкосновенности, реформы Нацрады по телевидению и радиовещанию и т.д. нам потребуется 300+ голосов. Мы категорически против любого раскачивания обстановки, но мы же можем пригласить наших сторонников мирно выйти под Верховную раду. И я хотел бы увидеть, как таком случае кто-то не проголосует за ту же отмену неприкосновенности", - сказал собеседник в штабе "Слуги народа".



https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2019/07/19/7221358/
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andjey
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2019, 05:55:46 AM »

My prediction for this election:
Servant of the People: 46-47%
Opposition Platform - For Life: 10-11%
Fatherland: 7-8%
European Solidarity: 7-8%
Voice: 5-6%
Strenght and Honor: 5-6%

Ukrainian Strategy: 3%
Opposition Bloc: 3%
Radical Party: 2-3%
Civil Platform: 2%
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andjey
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2019, 02:34:57 PM »

Why did Civil Platform and the Radical Party fall so low? Damn, Akhmetov’s latter vehicle got shafted.

The Civil Platform's electorate is similar to the Strenght and Honor's and Voice's electorate, so more popular parties have now cast votes in Hrytsenko.

Lyashko did not remain popular because of his excessive populism. He did not do anything important for the country, but speaks a lot.
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andjey
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2019, 01:34:38 PM »

We will have 5 qualified exit polls at 8 pm (GMT+3), and then the results of the official counting on the site of the Central Election Commission

https://www.cvk.gov.ua
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andjey
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2019, 01:37:02 PM »

Why did Civil Platform and the Radical Party fall so low? Damn, Akhmetov’s latter vehicle got shafted.

The Civil Platform's electorate is similar to the Strenght and Honor's and Voice's electorate, so more popular parties have now cast votes in Hrytsenko.

Lyashko did not remain popular because of his excessive populism. He did not do anything important for the country, but speaks a lot.

Lyashko is Populist In Namo Only, spoke a lot and later voted with government.
Also after bad result in presidential, Akhmetov stripped Radical Party from money

Lyashko did not always vote with the government, but basically so
I totally agree with you
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andjey
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2019, 04:44:55 AM »

So which party is for the Maidan veterans?
The most is European Solidarity
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2019, 06:26:18 AM »

At 12 am (GMT +3) turnout was 19,15%. The highest turnout in Eastern Ukraine, the lowest turnout in the West of Ukraine
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andjey
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2019, 08:10:08 AM »

Ah. Didn't know Western voters tend to turn out later.

So. It always happens. By evening, the turnout in the West will be 7-10% more higher than in the East.
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andjey
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2019, 11:52:37 AM »

The low turnout, which is expected to be about 50%, will greatly help the party Servant of the People, as supporters of Zelensky are now very active, while Zelensky's opponents are not actively voting in the election
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andjey
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2019, 12:04:36 PM »

First exit poll

Servant of the People 44.5%
Opposition Platform - For Life 12.5%
European Solidarity 8.5%
Fatherland 7.7%
Voice 6.0%
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andjey
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2019, 12:06:02 PM »

Only that President Zelensky was told about the high probability of announcing snap local elections
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andjey
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2019, 12:16:32 PM »

Another exit poll:

Servant of the People 43,9%
Opposition Platform - For Life 11,5%
European Solidarity 8,9%
Fatherland 7,6%
Voice 6,3%
Strenght and Honor 4,2%
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andjey
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2019, 02:15:05 AM »

Now the Servant of the People is leading in 125 districts and has 122 deputies proportionally, that is, it will personally have the majority of 247 deputies in the Parliament (227-267 in the event that the result will change after the processing of all the ballots)
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andjey
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2019, 01:57:49 PM »

Question. Is Servant of the People TV show still playing now that Zelensky actually became President?  Did they find someone else to play the role of President or did the show shut down.
TV show Servant of the People is closed. Third season of this serial was final
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andjey
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2019, 06:26:28 AM »

Final Results
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Servant of the People 43.16%  124 (prpl) 130 (fptp)  254 seats
Opposition Platform - For Life 13.05%  37 (prpl) 6 (fptp)  43 seats
Fatherlnd 8.18%  24 (prpl) 2 (fptp)  26 seats
European Solidarity 8.10%  23 (prpl) 2 (fptp) 25 seats
Voice 5.84%  17 (prpl) 3 (fptp)  20 seats

Opposition Bloc 3.03%  0 (prpl) 6 (fptp)  6 seats
Svoboda (Freedom) 2.15%  0 (prpl) 1 (fptp)  1 seat
Self Reliance 0.62%  0 (prpl) 1 (fptp)  1 seat

Independents 48 seats
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