The BlueSwan Basement of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VIII

[Zaybay]

Quick facetious one-liner answer - because they are smarter than regular college grads

Real answer - because the same factors that make college-educated voters more likely to be Democratic also make them more likely to be Democratic, such as being more likely than 4 year college grads to have jobs as "knowledge-worker professionals" which is associated with voting Dem.

Meanwhile those who use their degree to become productive members of society (e.g. businessmen, chemical engineers, CPAs, etc.) tend to vote GOP.

[Zaybay]

due to a GOP internal showing WV-Sen tied:

Morrisey is receiving the Trump bump, he’s the clear favorite at this point.

not to mention the previous GOP internal showed M ahead by 2.

[Zaybay]

Short answer--Why bother (see Hillgoose above)

Long answer--Coal power plants are going to keep closing, WV mines are going to keep declining and shut down as the coal gives out, even the met coal mines (a major one will close this week for "geologic reasons").  Fat Nixon can lie to them all day, it doesn't change reality.

Their population pyramid is totally fubar'd.  They have fewer people than they did in 1980.
They have fewer people than they did in 1950.  They have 262,000 people between the ages of 55-64 and 212,000 between the ages 10-19.  They had 30,000 births in 1980 and 18,500 last year.  They are not a magnet for and are in fact hostile to the idea of immigration.   They are a lock to have fewer people in 2050 than they do now.  They don't have a Senator who can drag stuff into the state like they once did.  They live in geographically difficult terrain where infrastructure is difficult to build and maintain.  There is no compelling reason economically to build and maintain such infrastructure.

Save for the Eastern Panhandle and Morgantown (and even Morgantown is iffy) there is no reason to expect anything different from West Virginia.  Why bother.

What

How the hell is this absurd and ignorant? Every word of that post is true, and it's backed up by facts and figures.

Politician refuses to believe that WV is full of bitter people who hate it when black people also get welfare money (that they feel should only go to “hardworkin’ folk”—aka white people) and especially hate it when black people kneel.

He is the kind of person IceSpear is talking about when mocking the socialist avatars for wanting to trade West Virginia for Colorado and Virginia.

Those two (Icespear and Politician) are locked in an endless arguments about that kind of stuff. Candidate quality vs fundamentals, leaving states like WV behind vs winning it back. Neither seem to understand that perhaps the best course of action is to stop, as neither will listen to the other, or agree to the rather obvious compromise that its might possibly be both Candidate Quality and Fundamentals.

[Zaybay]

I imagine this is such a massive blowout (even by MD standards) because of an uncontroversial incumbent?

It's funny, I actually didn't vote for him because he refused to endorse Jealous. I wrote in my wife's name.

Whats wrong with that? Seems rather reasonable. They didnt vote for the Ds who refused to endorse their own D candidate for governor, nothing wrong with that.

[Zaybay]

I imagine this is such a massive blowout (even by MD standards) because of an uncontroversial incumbent?

It's funny, I actually didn't vote for him because he refused to endorse Jealous. I wrote in my wife's name.

Whats wrong with that? Seems rather reasonable. They didnt vote for the Ds who refused to endorse their own D candidate for governor, nothing wrong with that.

"Only vote for candidates who support Trump."

still not really that absurd or ignorant, TBH. If people want to support an agenda, then why vote for someone who opposes it?

[Zaybay]

Not surprised to see most of the Democrats on here celebrating her return. Why do people like Pelosi so much, especially after what happened during her first tenure as Speaker?

I don't like her but I prefer her to the alternatives.

That's not exactly a ringing endorsement. But hopefully she won't be there for longer than the next few years. However, I am vexed by people on here who seem to think that a Democratic-run House will do any better than its predecessor. I expect the gridlock and ineffectiveness of recent years to continue.

It will do better because it will actually put a check on the White House.

Would you be saying this if this were a Democratic Administration and a Republican House, just like eight years ago? I doubt it.

[Zaybay]

That's the ball game folks!

Were you expecting something different?

No one should have. But it's still interesting to see that Pelosi just barely hit the number that she needed. That suggests, that a significant portion of the Democratic caucus is opposed to her, and should be another signal that she should retire very soon.

*Checks Notes*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election


Thats.....15 Democrats, or 7% of the Democratic Caucus.

[Zaybay]

That's the ball game folks!

Were you expecting something different?

No one should have. But it's still interesting to see that Pelosi just barely hit the number that she needed. That suggests, that a significant portion of the Democratic caucus is opposed to her, and should be another signal that she should retire very soon.

*Checks Notes*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election


Thats.....15 Democrats, or 7% of the Democratic Caucus.

To be fair many Democrats voted for her because only no viable candidate emerged from the left.

yeah, but it still doesnt justify the observation that this vote proves that there is a large chunk of the Democrats who dont like/want Pelosi.

[Zaybay]

Many of you guys don't understand the dynamics of New York politics.

AOC would (most likely) not win a statewide Democratic primary. New York is a strong blue state but it's not some progressive paradise.

Agree. I think under the right circumstances AOC as gubernatorial nominee could lose to a moderate Republican.

[Zaybay]

If Bernie wins the nomination, the #NeverBernie crowd will stay home or write someone in costing him the election. If Bernie doesn't win, the #BernieOrBust crowd will stay home or write someone in costing Harris, Biden, or whoever other than Bernie, to lose the election.

I'm not trolling. I'm just saying I don't have much hope for 2020. The party is too divided to energetically unite under one candidate.

Democrats might as well begin preparing for 2024.

[Zaybay]

After rumors that Hickenlooper wont run for CO senate:

Gardner actually has a credible shot now.