Italy 2013: The official thread

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PDL rebelling against Berlusconi.
Goats roaring against the lion.

But how many make up this rebel faction?

Between 30 and 50,it seems.

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PDL rebelling against Berlusconi.
Goats roaring against the lion.

But how many make up this rebel faction?

Between 30 and 50,it seems.

And some thought we'd never see the day Silvio would be seriously challenged!

Then again, I don't know what the party members outside of parliament think about this. Any polling?

There is no such thing as PDL members...voters,at most.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HE CHANGED HIS MIND AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

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http://video.corriere.it/governo-berlusconi-vota-fiducia-ma-brunetta-non-sa/1016ef8c-2b7a-11e3-93f8-300eb3d838ac

"The decision has been made to vote against the government UNANIMOUSLY (spelled out"

Italian version of "read my lips"....

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I wonder if the whole Senate has the balls to kick him out though ...

Simple majority is required.

Problem is,vote will be secret. And there are rumours that M5S senators will vote in his favour, so as to blame PD and go to elections with a vast majority. PD senators are working out a way to make their votes blatantly clear to all.

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Problem is,vote will be secret. And there are rumours that M5S senators will vote in his favour, so as to blame PD and go to elections with a vast majority. PD senators are working out a way to make their votes blatantly clear to all.

Where do these rumours come from?

Political journalists from pretty much everywhere.

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Political journalists from pretty much everywhere.

Right, found out now. It was a PD politician who told this to the press but I also read M5S speakers asked for the vote not to be secret.

Many are saying that "the White Whale (DC Party) is resurfacing from the deep" with this new Government alliance, the small centrist parties need more forces to survive like they always do.

Asking for the vote not to be secret is nothing other than a purely propagandistic vote.
If a very number small of senators (don't remember how many) asks for the vote to be secret, and the PdL has already announced it wants the vote to be secret, then it has to be. M5S is doing nothing other than propaganda,as usual.