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italian-boy
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« on: October 20, 2012, 06:42:58 AM »

I'm afraid that what's not clear to some is that is not enough to say "More houses for the poor!Higher minimum wage!" to be left-wing.

Many neo-fascist groups propose such a "social agenda", trying to appeal to the working class and at the same time to hide their hate towards whoever is "different" (LGBT,foreigners).
Hate which, more often than not, degenerates into physical aggressions.

So,yes,to say that the BNP or the Front National are left-wing is nothing other than believing what they want you to believe, and not look at what they actually do and think.
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italian-boy
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 07:49:30 AM »

I'm afraid that what's not clear to some is that is not enough to say "More houses for the poor!Higher minimum wage!" to be left-wing.

Many neo-fascist groups propose such a "social agenda", trying to appeal to the working class and at the same time to hide their hate towards whoever is "different" (LGBT,foreigners).
Hate which, more often than not, degenerates into physical aggressions.

So,yes,to say that the BNP or the Front National are left-wing is nothing other than believing what they want you to believe, and not look at what they actually do and think.

Economic views has been the left/right standard for centuries. If you use social agenda as your dividing line, you wind up with absurdities like having to call Gary Johnson a lefty or Stalin a right winger.
You obviously misunderstood me.

I am saying that they are authoritarian right-wingers who claim to have leftist views on topics such as housing or welfare just to get more popular support from the working class.
But these remain simple claims, since they never get elected to anything.
So they get some support from the working class and at the same time they appear "civilized" to people like you or whoever tries to make an analysis purely on "formal programmes", but in reality they are (violent) semi-fascists.

And at that point the question is: do you think fascism is left-wing?
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