Is Sarah Palin qualified to be President of the United States?

[JSojourner]

She is if Obama is.

The former Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska...

The current, first term governor of a state with 600-thousand residents...

The former Miss Alaska....

Versus...

A former editor of the Harvard Law Review...

A former, multi-term state senator in a populous state...

A former community organizer in America's third largest city...

A first term Senator with experience on the Foreign Relations and Armed Services committee...


Obama wins the experience battle, hands down.  

But I would still prefer Biden at the top of the ticket.  

[JSojourner]

How many inhabitants does Wasilla have?A thousand?

About five thousand.

[JSojourner]

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She is.

You have already been shown she is not.  Fine if you disagree but you might want to back up your assertion with more than just your opinion.

How is the ex-mayor of a town of 52-hundred people...a first term governor of one of the smallest states in the union...and a former Miss Alaska...

more experienced than...

...a former President of the Harvard Law Review...a multi-term state legislator in a populous state...a community organizer in America's third largest city...and a sitting senator serving on the Armed Forces and Foreign Relations committees...

Please explain.

(PS:  I am still not at ease with Obama's amount of experience.  I would have preferred him at the bottom of the ticket.)

[JSojourner]

How many inhabitants does Wasilla have?A thousand?

About five thousand.

Well Jesus, let's put this woman second in line to be in charge of the military.

Some would have greater doubts putting Obama in charge of the military.

Why?

[JSojourner]

Yes.  Executive experience is  more helpful than Legislative.

Right.

Being mayor of a town of five thousand and spending two years as governor of one of the smallest states in the union is much more helpful to a commander in chief than serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee or the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Or were you referring to her executive experience as Miss Alaska?

[JSojourner]

How many inhabitants does Wasilla have?A thousand?

About five thousand.

Well Jesus, let's put this woman second in line to be in charge of the military.

Some would have greater doubts putting Obama in charge of the military.

Why?

To put it most charitably: Obama = Carter the Second.

Why?  ('ll just repeat the question until you actually answer it.)

[JSojourner]

To put it most charitably: Obama = Carter the Second.

An interesting line of criticism. You should consider e-mailing it to McCain and the RNC for consideration.

As much as you (and Jsorjourner) sneer at the implication, it is still real: military people, in combat service, and their families, don't feel liberal Democrats have their, or American strategic, interests at heart when the Democrat serves as commander-in-chief. Not that Carter presented himself as a liberal in 1976, but his diffidence towards Iran in office only made him appear that much worse.

Carter was anything but indifferent to Iran.  He did everything he could.  Just as Ronald Reagan did everything he could to get hostages released from Lebanon.

You are probably right that military people -- those in combat -- don't think Obama has their interests at heart.  And that's a shame.  Because he does.  And McCain, I am sincerely shocked to say, doesn't seem to.  Which one wants to fight the terrorists where they are, not where they dream they are?  Which one wants to fully equip the troops, not whine about "the Army you have"?  Which one supports the G-I bill?  Which one wants full health care for all veterans, not spurious health insurance cards that may or may not get them coverage?  Which one wants PTSD recognized and treated as a serious disorder?  

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama has more support from retired Admirals and Generals than McCain does.  Kerry certainly did.  

But you're right.  The average combat soldier doesn't trust Democrats.  Why?  Because Rush, Liddy and Ollie North tell them what to think.  

[JSojourner]

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McCain has more than 22 years of executive experience. (Military).

Palin has a little over 7 years.

"The one" and Crazy Joe have ZERO.

Oh I apologize...I forgot about her two years on the Wasilla City Council before she was mayor of the metropolis.

And she was head of the "Fellowship of Christian Athletes" at her high school.  Pretty heady stuff.

Feh on Obama for that little Harvard Law Review nonsense.

[JSojourner]

She is if Obama is.

The former Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska...

The current, first term governor of a state with 600-thousand residents...

The former Miss Alaska....

Versus...

A former editor of the Harvard Law Review...

A former, multi-term state senator in a populous state...

A former community organizer in America's third largest city...

A first term Senator with experience on the Foreign Relations and Armed Services committee...

Well put.  An executive versus someone who just plays lefty politics.

Then fine!  You don't like his leftie politics.  But don't argue that she has more experience.

[JSojourner]

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Actually I haven't. I've seen the mindless worshiping of delusional cultists, who are devastated that their "messiah" isn't nearly as smart as they think he is.

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Nice way to try to twist what her actual experience is.

She has SEVEN years of executive experience. "The messiah" has none. If you want to play the "let's trash Alaska" game, fine. But executive experience is executive experience.

Your "messiah" HAS NONE.

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Trying to tout "Law review editor" and "community organizer" is simply laughable. It makes "the one" look worse, not better. I'd knock it off if your intent on helping him.

State legislator with no accomplishments and less than a full term Senator.

That's what you have.

Neither is a qualification to be president.

ONE year as a governor OF ANY STATE trumps the entire  "messiah" resume.

You might not like it, but your "messiah" was pwned. Live with it.

Anyone who says PWNED in a post has got to be 12.  Let me guess, you play a lot of online videogames?

That aside, you might want to review my hundreds of posts questioning or criticizing Obama --- especially in the primary -- before you call me a kool ade drinking cultist who considers him a messiah.

Facts are facts.  Compare the records.

Palin was head of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes at her high school.
She was runner up for Miss Alaska and was voted "Miss Congeniality".
She was a city councilwoman and mayor of a small town.
She has been governor of one of the smallest states in the union for about two years.

Obama was head of the Harvard Law Review.
He was a community organizer in a city with ten times more people than the state Palin governs.
He was a state senator for two terms in the fifth most populous state in the Union.
He has been and is a member of the U.S. Senate, serving on the Foreign Relations, Armed Services ------- and Veteran Affairs Committees.
He championed the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Reduction Threat in an effort to contain loose nukes ----------- around the world. His support and involvement were described by Lugar, a conservative Republican, as intense and thorough.

You are a complete ass if you think there is any comparison.

I do not think Obama is a messiah of any kind.  And I would have MUCH preferred Chris Dodd or Joe Biden at the top of the ticket.  Why?  Because, as I said repeatedly and many of the good Republican posters here will back me up, I am not at ease with Obama's experience level.  He has vastly more than her.  But still not enough.  So please continue to criticize Obama on the experience card.  You're right.  But if you think Palin has more, go sell crazy someplace else.

And seriously -- grow up and drop the PWNED nonsense.  Or at least spell it correctly.

[JSojourner]

No they weren't.  Obama started running for President when people couldn't even properly pronounce his name.  Even Dick Durbin said so last night.

They all started in the previous election cycle. Palin has two months.

Vice President

Most people have no clue who most VP picks are, when they are chosen.  The average voter didn' know who Joe Biden was, until a few days back.

Soulty's right.  We have to stop confusing political junkies like us with the rest of America.  Ordinary folks are just now getting acquainted with Joe Biden...even though he's run for President twice.  The VP nomineed just isn't on the radar screen of anyone but armchair prognosticators.

[JSojourner]

i hope biden shreds the bitch

Aizen, apologize.  That's a horrible thing to say.  All us Democrats hope she loses.  But she's a classy lady and, evidently, pretty intelligent and compassionate. 

[JSojourner]

Teaching ID in classrooms would be a disservice to science and the kids themselves. You want to teach it in a church or a philosophy class that's fine, but if anyone tries to teach my kids creationism I will get way more "pissy" than I am right now.

Someone needs to chill!

By the way, this attitude is just as annoying as those that could factually claim that evolution is still just a theory and shouldn't be passed off as fact.

Oh I'm straight chillin' dawg don't you worry about it. So the truth is annoying to you? lol.

What truth? Did you even read about my stance on this or are you being your usual self?

Oh vow you admitted that ID should not be taught in "science" classes. But still kids must be informed somehow that some retards out there won't accept science? Wow a great leap you have made sir. Do you want a cookie?

Dude, you're a massive douche.

i hope biden shreds the bitch

Aizen, apologize.  That's a horrible thing to say.  All us Democrats hope she loses.  But she's a classy lady and, evidently, pretty intelligent and compassionate. 

Nice party.

Phil,  if I hear more of this "bitch" talk, I will just go away.  I am disgusted with these kinds of epithets and labels.  I hated when people called Hillary a "c**nt" or a bitch.  And it sickens me that Palin is being called that.  

While Republican jackasses make me want to roll up my sleeves and fight, jackasses from my own party make me want to hide.

[JSojourner]

JS, I worry as things unfold, that by the time of the election, you and I will be the only examples on the forum, where a Republican and a Democrat are still friendly with each other.

I dunno Torie, but if people start calling this woman a bitch...I am gonna keep bitch slapping them.  She's a wonderful person who is dead wrong on a lot of issues.  Leave it at that.

As to you and I being nice to each other, shut up you Fascist,  narrow-minded, bigoted, religious nut.

Sincerely,

The America-hating, baby killing, devil-worshiper!  :-)

[JSojourner]

JS, I worry as things unfold, that by the time of the election, you and I will be the only examples on the forum, where a Republican and a Democrat are still friendly with each other.

As to you and I being nice to each other, shut up you Fascist,  narrow-minded, bigoted, religious [Godless] nut.

Fixed it in the interests of accuracy.

Oh, I know you're an Atheist.  But I was engaging in a political attack.  So solely for those purposes, you're a Bible thumper.

Sorta like Obama is a Muslim and McCain wants to take food out of the mouths of hungry babies.

[JSojourner]

i hope biden shreds the bitch

Aizen, apologize.  That's a horrible thing to say.  All us Democrats hope she loses.  But she's a classy lady and, evidently, pretty intelligent and compassionate. 

i was kidding holy crap

i will not apologize for it

i don't really consider her a "bitch"

but if she wants creationism in schools

then she must be stopped

at all costs

especially since there is a good chance mccain will die and she would take over

A few things my friend,

1.  I am glad you were kidding. 
2.  Hey -- I agree with you about creationism...and I am a Christian.  But hammer her on that.  Or on wanting to put abortive women in prison.  That makes her a right wing conservative.  Not a bitch.
3.  At all costs?  No, not at all costs.  Not at the cost of our integrity or decency.
4.  I don't think there is "a good chance" McCain will die.  But he has battled melanoma and he is 72.  Let's see if we can find away to express our concern about her being a heartbeat away...without sounding like we're saying, "Bring out your dead!"  We all want Mac to live a long, healthy life whether he is President or not.

[JSojourner]

i hope biden shreds the bitch

Aizen, apologize.  That's a horrible thing to say.  All us Democrats hope she loses.  But she's a classy lady and, evidently, pretty intelligent and compassionate. 

Thank you.

No thanks necessary.  I socked my nephew in the mouth for calling his mother, my sister, a bitch.  And she's crazy as a loon.  But she's a lady. 

[JSojourner]

he smokes about a pack a day.

false

No, it's true.  I ran into him at the mosque this morning and invited him over for a drink or two, but he declined.  You know, he's pretty observant about the faith.  Inshallah.  But he did burn a big fat joint with me, and after we finished it, he lit up a Marlboro.  Then, before we parted company, he'd finished that first Marlboro and just before it went out he lit a second one from the dying cherry of the first.

Did you have time to abort any babies, sacrifice any virgins or sell any crack to school children.?  Or was Obama too busy planning the next 9/11 attack?

[JSojourner]

It does not appear that she is.  Palin's resume seems similar to that of Tim Kaine except the state she governs is even smaller.  I was opposed to a Kaine selection by Obama.  She is going to have to do some serious cramming to get up to speed on foreign policy/national security and I just don't think she has the time.  Biden will kill her on this issue during the debates. 

Kaine was too inexperienced because he was a Democratic, one term governor.

Palin is extremely experienced because she is a Republican, one term governor.

You have to learn to sort these things out.

[JSojourner]

Another anecdotal: my mother loves Hilary (and Bill) Clinton, and absolutely hated Obama in the primaries, though she's come around to an extent. She's still hostile to Obama though, and has said that, while she supports the Democrat, she wouldn't mind a McCain victory. But she is completely opposed to the Palin pick. She's especially angry that Palin talked about the glass ceiling and Clinton's work to break it in her speech yesterday, as my mom believes that Clinton is entitled to be the first woman to become president, and thinks that Palin coming along from nowhere with no accomplishments to steal Clinton's spotlight is disgusting.

The fact is Gov. Palin would be a much better President then Sen. Clinton.

Why?

[JSojourner]

Another anecdotal: my mother loves Hilary (and Bill) Clinton, and absolutely hated Obama in the primaries, though she's come around to an extent. She's still hostile to Obama though, and has said that, while she supports the Democrat, she wouldn't mind a McCain victory. But she is completely opposed to the Palin pick. She's especially angry that Palin talked about the glass ceiling and Clinton's work to break it in her speech yesterday, as my mom believes that Clinton is entitled to be the first woman to become president, and thinks that Palin coming along from nowhere with no accomplishments to steal Clinton's spotlight is disgusting.

The fact is Gov. Palin would be a much better President then Sen. Clinton.

Why?

Look at Gov. Palin record as Governor of Alaska. She stood up to her own party and other parties and weeded out the corruption. She worked with Canada on the new natural gas line that will help lead America to energy indepence. She has put Republican, Democrats and Independents in her office. She stood up to the big Oil Companies. That is a woman I want as Vice-Priesdent and hopefully one day President of the Untied States of America.

So if I understand you correctly, you believe this makes Sarah Palin a better choice for President of the United States than Senator Hillary Clinton?