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Hans-im-Glück
Franken
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,970
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -5.94, S: -3.30

« on: April 30, 2012, 03:19:49 PM »

1871: Deutsche Fortschrittspartei
1874: Deutsche Fortschrittspartei
1877: Deutsche Fortschrittspartei or Liberale Vereinigung
1878: Deutsche Fortschrittspartei or Liberale Vereinigung
1881: Deutsche Fortschrittspartei or Liberale Vereinigung
1884: Deutsche Freisinnige Partei
1887: Deutsche Freisinnige Partei
1890: Deutsche Freisinnige Partei
1893: Freisinnige Volkspartei
1898: Freisinnige Volkspartei
1903: Freisinnige Volkspartei
1907: Freisinnige Volkspartei
1912: Fortschrittliche Volkspartei
1919: Deutsche Demokratische Partei
1920: Deutsche Demokratische Partei
May 1924: Deutsche Demokratische Partei
Dec 1924: Deutsche Demokratische Partei
1925 President: Willy Hellpach round 1, Wilhelm Marx round 2
Referendum 1926: Abstain.
1928: Deutsche Demokratische Partei
Referendum 1928: Yes.
Referendum 1929: Yes.
1930: Reichspartei des deutschen Mittelstandes
1932 President: Theodor Duesterberg round 1 (better the evil you don't know in this case...), Paul von Hindenberg round 2
July 1932: Reichspartei des deutschen Mittelstandes
November 1932: Reichspartei des deutschen Mittelstandes
March 1933: Deutsche Staatspartei or Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands with hindsight
November 1933: spoil ballot
Referendum 1933: No. (protest vote)
East German election 1946: Liberal-Demokratische Partei Deutschlands
1949: Freie Demokratische Partei
1953: Freie Demokratische Partei
1957: Freie Demokratische Partei
1961: Freie Demokratische Partei
1965: Freie Demokratische Partei
1969: Christlich-Soziale Union in Bayern (you are able to vote for them in other parts of Germany, right?)
1972: Christlich-Soziale Union in Bayern
1976: Christlich-Soziale Union in Bayern
1979 European: Christlich-Soziale Union in Bayern
1980: Freie Demokratische Partei
1983: Freie Demokratische Partei
1984 European: Christlich-Soziale Union in Bayern
1987: Freie Demokratische Partei
1989 European: Die Republikaner
1990 East Germany: Deutsche Soziale Union
1990: Freie Demokratische Partei
1994 European: Die Republikaner
1994: Freie Demokratische Partei
1998: Freie Demokratische Partei
1999 European: Die Republikaner
2002: Freie Demokratische Partei
2004 European: Die Republikaner
2005: Freie Demokratische Partei
2009 European: Die Republikaner
2009: Freie Demokratische Partei

That's very funny Cheesy  I think you know not so much about Germany.

The Deutsche Fortschrittspartei, Deutsche Freisinnige Partei or the Deutsche Demokratische Partei were left-liberal Party and build in every election an alliance with the SPD. I really can't imagine that an libertarian like you vote for them. You would vote for the Nationalliberale. They were very Conservative in Economical things and  in the center in social issues.

You can only vote for the CSU in Bavaria. Outside you must vote for the CDU.

A swing-voter between FDP and Die Republikaner is quite impossible. They have nearly nothing in common. Die Republikaner are (moderate) fascists and would have a Economical Score -2.0 and Social +7,5. This is quite the opposite to yours ;-)
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Hans-im-Glück
Franken
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 7,970
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -5.94, S: -3.30

« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 12:49:13 PM »

That's very funny Cheesy  I think you know not so much about Germany.

Never claimed to, but I think you'd be surprised.

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Well, Eugen Richter, their party leader, at least was quite libertarian, and was very much against Bismarck's welfare state, against protectionism, etc.  "Left-liberal" did not have the same meaning back then as it does now, it referred to whether they thought they should ally with the conservatives against the socialists (right-liberals) or whether they should try to be a unique movement fighting a "two-front war" against both (left-liberals).

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"Conservative in economical issues" meant, at the time, supporting protectionism and Bismarck's welfare state, and "in the center on social issues" meant supporting and introducing extremist anti-Catholic legislation.  I think not.

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Alright, fine, I'll live in Bavaria then.  Seems like the most fun-loving part anyhow.

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I'm only voting for them in European elections, as you can see.

Bismarck was a wise politician. His social program prevented a radicalization of the masses in Germany. He has it enforced against the will of his own supporters. Without his politics you would have a good chance to see a German Soviet Union 1919 Wink

I know also that the DFP and its subsequent parties, were an "economic liberal party" and to this point they wasn't fit together with the SPD, but otherwise had in the most other issues the same interests. By the way, Richter was not alone in the party. There was also a very strong social-liberal wing. Look at the Hirsch-Dunckersche Gewerkvereine (Left-Liberal Unions). All of them were supporters of the DFP, DDP.

to Bavaria:
Welcome in my State Wink, but I think that the FDP is more your Party than the CSU. The CSU is socially, for a German party Wink, very conservative and from time to time they are in economical issues more Social Democratic than the SPD (not often, but sometimes Wink )

to Republikaner:
Only because you are against the EU, you would vote for a Racist Redneck Party who stand for the exact opposite of your opinion?Huh? Then better stay at home and don't go to the election.
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