Ireland Referendum on the Lisbon Treaty 2009 : Results Thread

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Can you explain the reason why the yes areas went yes, and no went no? I've no idea.

Very Basically: Very Strong Fianna Fail Political Machines (Laois-Offaly where our current dear leader resides, Clare, Dublin North Central all seem to have this in common. Though there may be more to that in DNC) + The Bourgeoise (South East Dublin + New Suburbs like large parts of Meath West and Kildare North - where I reside right now) = YES.

Everyone Else = No. Poorer and the more isolated suburbs having the strongest NO (which explains Dublin SW) along with the West Coast due to typical alienation from central authority and in certain places it seems anger over EU fishing quotas (pertinent especially in Donegal).

Btw Harry, Westmeath is a county in its own right so it's "Longford-Westmeath" not "Longford- West meath"[/pedant].

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Just Voted - Went YES this time. But wasn't very happy - stood there for two minutes wondering whether to vote YES or to scribble in something: I was stuck between "Gigantor the Giant Robot" or "The People's Popular Front of Judea" - but decided in the end to be traditional.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Fine Gael exit poll (take this is a slight pinch of salt imo) says YES - 52%, NO - 48%.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1002/breaking1.htm

*Might* be good news for the NO camp then.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1002/breaking1.htm

The Times has corrected itself - the FG Poll said 60-40 in favour of yes. Perhaps the earlier polls were right all along.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Hopefully it passes. Results are announced tomorrow night right?

Counting begins at 9AM tomorrow; the result should be clear very soon after that though the official results won't be announced until some time after that.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Cowen is a masterful politician

lol

I second this.

Anyway somehow this isn't very surprising.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Where I spend most of my time: Kildare North has declared:

YES: 32,012 (76.19%)
NO: 10,002 (23.81%)

That's a 21.57% swing towards the YES from last time.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Donegal North East has kept with the NO so not a clean sweep. Low Turnout thought.

Turnout: 29,290 (51.4%)
YES: 14,156 (48.54%)
NO: 15,005 (51.46%)
Swing: 13.24% to YES.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Dún Laoighaire appears to be breaking 80% in favour.
(Read: The bourgeoisie approve! )

I knew the use of that word would come back to haunt me.

Anyway Donegal SW is seen as too close to call. So maybe 41-2 other than that...

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Donegal South West also goes NO:

Turnout: 31544 (52.3%)
YES: 15,623 (49.73%)
NO: 15,794 (50.27%)
Swing: 13.1% to YES.

While Tipperary North also follows on from its fellow county constituency and goes YES:

Turnout: 33379 (59.6%)
YES: 25,768 (70.38%)
NO: 10,846 (29.62%)
Swing: 20.6% to YES

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Donegal South West also goes NO:

Turnout: 31544 (52.3%)
YES: (49.7%)
NO: (50.3%)
Swing: 13.1% to YES.

While Tipperary North also goes YES:

Turnout: 33379 (59.6%)
YES: (70.4%)
NO: (29.6%)
Swing: 20.6% to YES

Beating Referendum Ireland into a cocked hat (3/43 they say).

Theory: Constituencies closer to the border (and influenced by Ulster politics) get British TV signals and have seen the rise of UKIP in the Euros, making them swing less than purely Eire constituencies. Discuss

No. UKIP actually tried to campaign here... which as you see went down very well. Donegal's vote is part traditional alienation from central authority (the only town of significance near them is of course across the border - guess who gets neglected or seems to get neglected in national planning initatives?), Influence of Sinn Fein and probably EU fisheries policies (which certainly has had a major negative impact there) as well as what random local factors of which I'm not fully aware.

I'm going by the RTE website btw.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

From the Rte Website:

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Oh, the Credibility!

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Not even Dublin South West for the NO? Has the working-class switched to the YES with the economic crisis?

I heard earlier that the result in Cork North Central will be close, perhaps the only NO in Munster, so there is certainly still a divide... just the rural areas voted in such a way to make it totally irrelevant.

EDIT: So much for that. But it was closer than the other Munster areas.

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Give Donegal back to the Donegalese!

I wonder what the "correct" adjective here would be.

The best I've come up with so far is "Give Tyrconnell back to the O'Donnells!"

lolz.

"Donegal men" perhaps; we prefer not to invent further nouns into the English languages by giving such titles as "Donegalers" or "Monaghaners" or whatever. Such words don't exist, prude.