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Tetro Kornbluth
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« on: September 02, 2010, 03:25:41 PM »
« edited: September 02, 2010, 03:27:45 PM by The Goy's Teeth »

To throw fuel onto the fire...

Family Guy is far, far more offensive than South Park is. It is offensive in myriad ways and is profoundly stupid (though funny on occasion especially in the first three series or so). I agree that Butt out isn't one of the best South Park episodes and the quality of the last few series' has deteriorated quite a bit (Since Team America: World Police I think... that was really Parker/Stone first real misstep. That, and the guys are in their 40s... they just can't do toilet humour like they used to any more). Yet I still some of the best South Park episodes are, however superficial they may appear, far more intelligent and accurate on the contemporary world situation than anything else on Television right now. This is despite the fact that I don't always agree with them (Margaritaville and Imaginationland being brilliant examples of this. The former especially, while not a perfect episode, knocks out more truths about the recession in 22 minutes than news programs or 'quality television' ever have and ever can).
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2010, 03:32:13 PM »

Well I consider Pulp Fiction a Christian propaganda piece.

Here we go again...

From the wikipedia page on the film:

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That is, to say, the biblical reference is merely yet another meaningless movie reference.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2010, 09:52:03 PM »

My reason for considering Pulp Fiction to be Christian propaganda has nothing to do with the Bible verse. Rather it's because of the message of seeking redemption and being given a second chance by God. Samuel L Jackson takes and accepts this, John Travolta doesn't, and we see what happens to him.

Doesn't contradict anything I said earlier. That is just pastiche. This are no ideas in Pulp Fiction as far as I can see other than "retro is awesome", "how cool was this movie reference" and "Look! I've watched Bande a Part/anyotherfilmcited". Which isn't to say the film isn't well made or designed or anything like that.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 02:14:18 PM »

Satire isn't supposed to be balanced.

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'Balanced' Satire is an oxymoron to a fault.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 05:31:41 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2010, 07:22:59 AM by The Goy's Teeth »

BTW it is possible to be unbalanced but not ridiculous Anvilicious (see TV Tropes.)

As noted before, South Park is usually about as subtle as Friedberg and Seltzer.

Subtely is an artistic strategy. Sometimes it is useful, sometimes it is not. South Park is of course extremely heavy-handed but that alone does not make it bad.
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