Spanish General Election 2011

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Remember folks, the PSOE has a tradition of underpolling at general election time.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Remember folks, the PSOE has a tradition of underpolling at general election time.

No, the polls in the last election correctly predicted a PSOE victory of about 4%.

Even a few months before the PSOE was ahead by about 4%, so it was really steady.

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Sry to say it but the PSOE will get absolutely slaughtered in November.

The only thing they can now try is damage control.

I was more thinking back to the 1990s when Gonzalez always underpolled (they were meant to lose in 1993 and 1996 was going to be a massive landslide and in the end the PP didn't even win a majority). And of course, there is 2004. Just saying there is history. Not that I doubt that the PSOE will lose here.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Mariano Rajoy isn´t fit to run an egg and spoon race... Though this clearly has never stopped people before, least of all in Spain.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Mariano Rajoy isn´t fit to run an egg and spoon race... Though this clearly has never stopped people before, least of all in Spain.

I prefer him rather than Esperanza Aguirre.

So why not accept mediocrity?

Anyway, the PP is too a "Spanish" party in many ways to be comparable to any of the other western European conservative parties (this is to say nothing of its origins). It is actually comparable to the Republicans in that sense.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Mariano Rajoy isn´t fit to run an egg and spoon race... Though this clearly has never stopped people before, least of all in Spain.

I prefer him rather than Esperanza Aguirre.

So why not accept mediocrity?

Anyway, the PP is too a "Spanish" party in many ways to be comparable to any of the other western European conservative parties (this is to say nothing of its origins). It is actually comparable to the Republicans in that sense.

Of course the Republican Party isn't founded on fascism.

That´s why I said "this is to say nothing of its origins".

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It hardly seems like there is a campaign on at all...

[Tetro Kornbluth]

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)

Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English.

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)

Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English.

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.

Well, what do you expect from a place that was a village until 50 years ago and now has almost 80,000 inhabitants?

Nothing. But I did have to work there for a while. So I was noting it from experience.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

My town is San Sebastian de los Reyes (north of Madrid)

Heh. The German wiki has more to say on it than the English.

It's a dull, uninteresting place (Sorry Julio). A Spanish equivalent of an exurb nowadays.

It may be for you, but you shouldn't have said that. I love "Sanse" and we're the most "fast-growing" town in Madrid (is fast-growing right?). And we have the biggest green local party in Spain (Izquierda Independiente).

Discúlpame.

(Btw, fastest-growing)

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Ugh, UPyD is awful and Rosa Diez is an insane Franquista.

They seem to me to be the most self-righteous party, quite possibly in Europe (note: It seems that a good proportion of my Spanish friends are voting for them so yeah...). But franquista is a bit nuts, though there is clearly some of kind historical continuity between the UPyD and a certain type of Castillian Liberalism.

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Anyone know if Rubalcaba plans to become opposition leader if (or rather when) he looses, or if he'll resign in order to make way for a PSOE leadership election?

The consensus in the press was that he would stay on.