Virginia megathread

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It's one event from 30 years ago. He should apologize. Shouldn't end his career.

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This speaks to what we have become as a culture.  For events that happened 30 years ago, we are demanding retroactive justice.  I personally believe that a politician should be forced to resign only for comments made in the present, or the near past (5 years).  Steve King, Cindy Hyde-Smith, any others like them.

Depends on what the events were. If they were actual crimes and not just poor judgement, I think people need to be held accountable. Otherwise, I basically agree.

This. Provided that they sincerely apologize, of course.

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Withholding judgement of this just as I did at first with Kavanaugh. But I'm looking forward to the unhinged rant from Lindsey Graham about how his life is ruined & expressing support for his wife & kids.

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Let me get this straight:

- Northam sticks his foot in his mouth with an outrageous quote about late term abortion
- In retaliation, his med school classmates leak his racist yearbook photo
- In response, Fairfax calls on Northam to resign
- In retaliation, Northam leaks Fairfax's sexual assault accusation

If this is how it really went down, it's the biggest comedy of errors since the life of Anthony Weiner

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The only resolution at this point.

- Fairfax resigns and Northam replaces him with a female POC.

- Northam resigns a month later and the new Lt Gov assumes power.

- New Lt. Gov is picked who should be another female POC and there would be a special election in '19.

- Herring should stay put since if he resigned the GOP would pick his replacement, but his political
  career is over.

What is your obsession with female POCs?

In light of the #MeToo and racism scandals I think it would be best for optics to have them all replaced by female POCs. It at least ensures it won't happen again.

Changing the colour and pair of gonads won't prevent racism or sexual misconduct in the slightest.

Well, in reality, in all likelihood it actually would. While not utterly non-existent, women using their positions of authority 2 sexually harass male subordinates is extremely rare. This hasn't changed even as women are increasingly in positions of power in business and politics. It is a rare rare exception to the rule. I will simply say a lot of this has to do with Biology, and a lot of its societal conditioning that affects even women in positions of power. But the end result though, is that statistically the likelihood of sexual harassment towards subordinates would drastically plummet.

Likewise, it's very rare for men or women of color to discriminate against non-white subordinates. Simply put, outside of small family businesses and rare exceptions like BET, it is almost unheard of for an African American supervisor to not have significant numbers of whites above them to whom they would have to readily answer to if they started unfairly favoring blacks over white employees. While the reverse is often tolerated, again, societal norms make it almost impossible for blacks to discriminate against whites without significant risk of repercussion to themselves. And I believe that carries over even to people of color who obtained very high office in government or business. Simply put, Society won't tolerate blacks favoring blacks over whites nearly as much as it will write off whites favoring whites over blacks as being "merit based" or " not giving in to PC racial hiring quotas" or some such.

Even if that's true, refusing to hire anyone whose not a female POC is no better than refusing to hire a minority due to negative stereotypes or statistics. It's racism/sexism, pure and simple.

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The Reps and Dems should make a deal that both Fairfax and Kavanaugh will resign on the same day. That would be fair.

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The American people pull through again! Sometimes I dream of what a paradise we would live in if we had a genuine democracy.

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The American people pull through again! Sometimes I dream of what a paradise we would live in if we had a genuine democracy.

They pull through by having a tie?

Given the swift and near unanimous reaction by virtually every elite & thought leader a tie is impressive.