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Beet
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« on: April 19, 2024, 06:31:32 PM »


Is this you saying DC and Puerto Rico are going to become states? Because that didn't happen the last time D's had a trifecta, despite certain guarantees that were made...

I mean, it's kind of a moot point because this obviously isn't happening, but in the scenario where Republicans hand over the speakership and a working majority, the votes ought to be there. It was literally just Manchin opposed in 2021 and they don't need his vote in the Senate anymore.

Or maybe Sinema would kill it out of spite. Yeah, she'd probably like that.

"out of spite"

https://news.gallup.com/poll/260129/americans-reject-statehood.aspx

Here's a poll showing a majority of Democrats oppose statehood for DC. Self-defined Liberals too btw. Say what you like about Sinema, but she's clearly much more in tune with public opinion (as opposed to self-interested electoral rotten-boroughing) here.

That is an old poll. Here is the latest one:
https://truthout.org/articles/poll-plurality-of-americans-would-support-d-c-statehood-if-backed-by-residents/
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2024, 06:38:43 PM »


Is this you saying DC and Puerto Rico are going to become states? Because that didn't happen the last time D's had a trifecta, despite certain guarantees that were made...

I mean, it's kind of a moot point because this obviously isn't happening, but in the scenario where Republicans hand over the speakership and a working majority, the votes ought to be there. It was literally just Manchin opposed in 2021 and they don't need his vote in the Senate anymore.

Or maybe Sinema would kill it out of spite. Yeah, she'd probably like that.

"out of spite"

https://news.gallup.com/poll/260129/americans-reject-statehood.aspx

Here's a poll showing a majority of Democrats oppose statehood for DC. Self-defined Liberals too btw. Say what you like about Sinema, but she's clearly much more in tune with public opinion (as opposed to self-interested electoral rotten-boroughing) here.

That is an old poll. Here is the latest one:
https://truthout.org/articles/poll-plurality-of-americans-would-support-d-c-statehood-if-backed-by-residents/

Nope, it's a wording difference. That poll lead with "If the residents of Washington, D.C. voted in favor of it" adopting the liberal framing of this being a representation question and emphasizing a point usually taken to favor DC statehood. The Gallup poll was more neutral (and hence better aligned with historic polling.)

But 85% of D.C. residents voted in favor of statehood in 2016. That is important context isn't it?

And I don't know what "historic polling" you're referencing. Here's another more recent poll than your 2019 one showing 74% of Democrats support DC statehood

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/washington-dc-statehood-national-support-congress/
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2024, 04:38:24 PM »

I just want to see members on record with this so we know where the members stand.
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