The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

[lfromnj]

In other news, Charlie Baker says he “absolutely” plans to serve out his new term as governor:

https://www.necn.com/news/politics/Massachusetts-Governor-Charlie-Baker-Republican-Re-Election-2nd-Term-Agenda-499941742.html

Of course. There's no room for Charlie in the national GOP.

yeah hogan can probably go somewhere as he is an actual moderate republican while Baker is literally a democrat in all but name.

[lfromnj]

Julián Castro huddles with donors to prepare 2020 bid

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wtf is it even with Julian Castro?
Seems like a sh**t tier candidate who just gets hyped by pundits but would be John Delaney level during the actual primaries.

[lfromnj]

Julián Castro huddles with donors to prepare 2020 bid

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wtf is it even with Julian Castro?
Seems like a sh**t tier candidate who just gets hyped by pundits but would be John Delaney level during the actual primaries.

Both Castros were too cowardly to run for statewide office.

Obviously coz they don't seem the hard workers to actually campaign. Instead some rando congressman from El paso wastes 2 years of his life.

[lfromnj]

Swalwell was on Real Time last night.  His possible presidential candidacy was mentioned, but he gave no new details about a decision timeline, or anything like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTn8TX2iamU

What he did reveal was he there was nothing special about him whatsoever. He would give Delaney a run for his money as THE MOST generic white guy running.

I mean Delaneys life story is pretty impressive and I like that about him.

[lfromnj]

Cuomo: "I am ruling it out":

https://theweek.com/speedreads/809597/andrew-cuomo-swears-hes-not-running-president-2020

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Aw damn I was just getting excited.

[lfromnj]

More importantly wtf does julian Castro have. Of any presidential candidate he confuses me the most and I want to see him go down in flames

[lfromnj]

Beto met Obama last month.

Yea. I'm sure Barack is smart enough to realize Beto is the one.

but rahm emanuel told me not to promote losers.

[lfromnj]

Sorry guys
Dems lost the race


They can't win

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2018/12/03/montana-senator-jon-tester-dismisses-encouragement-run-president-rachel-maddow/2196619002/

[lfromnj]

I was thinking the other day about how Heidi Heitkamp would be an interesting VP for Harris or Booker.  It would certainly balance the ticket, maybe a bit too much though.

A bit moderate but I think excluding the far left most Dems would accept her?
She raised like 20 million due to her political courage.

[lfromnj]

Also, O'Rourke's only hesitation is not wanting to spend so much more time away from his family:

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So, Beto is obviously running.

Yes, because this is his chance. He may never get a better chance than now.

The interesting part about Beto is that people are actually asking him to run rather than him announcing. Its clear that Harris Gillibrand and Booker have always marked interest. They have a base of supporters but those supporters aren't die hard and don't care that much. The enthusiastic support he gets should help in Iowa.
Btw does anyone have Beto's numbers on African Americans in Texas?

[lfromnj]

Also, O'Rourke's only hesitation is not wanting to spend so much more time away from his family:

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So, Beto is obviously running.

Yes, because this is his chance. He may never get a better chance than now.

The interesting part about Beto is that people are actually asking him to run rather than him announcing. Its clear that Harris Gillibrand and Booker have always marked interest. They have a base of supporters but those supporters aren't die hard and don't care that much. The enthusiastic support he gets should help in Iowa.
Btw does anyone have Beto's numbers on African Americans in Texas?

Citation needed.

Even if you are a huge fan of any of them, it's not debatable that nobody gets excited for Booker, Harris, or Gillibrand nearly as much as O'Rourke.

Okay. Citation needed since you didn't give me one. Nobody is a strong word.

Obviously I'm using hyperbole, but fine I'll take the bait. How about the fact that in the Harvard-Harris poll O'Rourke is polling 3/4, only behind people with way more name recognition, despite getting well known on the political scene only a couple months ago?

Nobody is a bit harsh but from talking with my dem friends it seems like the senator dems (besides bernie who is a bit weirder) all have the same profile of being relatively interchangeable people who live in safe blue state that will never vOTE anything trump supports(even non controversial stuff) despite all being relatively moderate earlier in their life. All these candidates are similar and besides us junkies no one notices a difference. Beto may have a similar vibe with the moderate part but a lot of people ik respect his suicide run.

[lfromnj]

Politico on Gillum.

I love Gillum and Abrams as much as (probably more than) I love Beto but to the people asking why the latter gets more attention than the former two, I would think the answer is obvious: Beto has federal experience, while Abrams only has state experience and Gillum doesn't even have that. Beto should run; Abrams should run for Senate; Gillum should wait and see what 2022's like in the Senate and Governorship in FL. Or maybe US House?

If Gillum were governor-elect, maybe (though he shouldn't've abandoned the state after two years). Ex-mayor Gillum? No.

Isn't it more the fact that Gillum massively undperformed while Abrams slightly underperformed and beto overperformed

[lfromnj]

Atlas' resident "garbage candidate" Julian Castro will be on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert tonight with his brother. 

i mean the thing is the moment Beto announces(I now say its a 50/50 ) he will look like a garbage candidate. Also he seems super opportunistic. Won't run statewide in 2018 because he was afraid of a loss on his resume.

[lfromnj]

Yeah buttigeg is basically screwed.
Indiana gov has a popular R incumbent in a red state. Safe r.
In 2nd is to the right of the state so he can't go for that.
Lol at president
His best bet would be a kander Yolo at todd young in 2022 in a trump midterm

[lfromnj]

NYT: Biden is still ambivalent about running and unclear whether Beto and Bernie will run.

yeah I don't see none of the big 3 B not running,

[lfromnj]

Can someone seriously explain the difference betweem klobuchar and bullock? Everyone says klobuchar has no charisma but nut over bullock

[lfromnj]

why would any democrat pick brown as their VP and why would brown agree to be VP?

he  would be like 76 by 2028.