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« on: April 10, 2019, 04:32:34 PM »

The US gave Ilhan Omar refuge , and gave her far far more opportunity than she would have had in Somalia and all she does is attack this nation non stop .

From all her statements she has made it is perfectly justifiable to call her unpatriotic and someone who dislikes this nation and calling her that is not Islamophobic




There's a lot of problems with this country, and I can understand why marginalized groups would dislike it.

that doesn't mean I dislike this country, but I think the idea that you have to blindly worship the US to be a patriot is really, really stupid.

I'm also not saying the US is worse than other countries, because, depressingly, we're probably more progressive than the majority of nations in the world.
When nationalists race to defend this country the way the NK media defends their man, they are not wrong. The point still stands that there is a lot we can and should improve. Criticizing someone who points out that a deplorable act of war against ordinary, simple, and innocent people has been made an opportunity to discriminate against her and people like her illustrates that point.
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2019, 06:53:50 PM »

I can see how the words she used seem to minimize the events of September 11th, but she also has a point about how all Muslims are blamed for it.  She is letting her frustration about that fact get to her and it results in coming off as self-serving and unsympathetic in the eyes of her critics.

Alright. I see how it could be interpreted as trivialization too but the outrage that it is producing is a kind of proactive "whataboutism" given the point she was making that it was a situation that was already cheapened by those who are using it to get or to do whatever they want.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2019, 02:45:57 AM »

Siri, what is “virtue signaling”?

Here are some results:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=post;topic=317758.75;num_replies=83
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2019, 12:27:40 PM »

I do find that Omar is totally ungrateful at this nation when the fact is people like her should be among the most grateful. They gave her refuge , opportunity, and freedom that she would never have gotten in Somalia yet all she does is attacks this nation.


 
Omar is trying desperately to get people to care about fighting climate change, supports the rights of ALL Americans (LGBTQ and immigrants included)  and she fights against corporate lobbyist corruption of politicians and money influencing politics, including but DEFINITELY not only AIPAC pro-Israel lobbyists who bribe our legislators to support Israel unconditionally on every single issue every single time, even if Israel does something terrible. Lile I said, not just AIPAC / Israel, but also corporations, big pharma, big oil, Koch Brothers, and the list goes on.

Trumpanzees cheer on Trump destroying our democracy and turning America into a banana republic, but criticize Omar's love and passion for America and it's ACTUAL values (not "white conservative values"). The hypocrisy is staggering.

Support for Israel is very much an actual American value, whether or not you think that is a good thing.
If Omar had said that politicians only support gay rights because they want to get money from rich gays, would progressives still be okay with her?

Lmao.

Israel is another country. Gay people are a (often persecuted) minority within the US.

Besides, a more apt comparison here would be if Democrats (or whoever) we’re choosing to let gay people who happened to commit crimes off the hook because they’re gay. In this case, the Right/center is demanding that the US support anything and everything Israel does just because it’s Israel.

If Israel were treated just like any other country by the international left and at the UN, rather than singled out for disproportionate criticism, the American mainstream might not feel the need to be so defensive of an American ally.

We provide them with direct arms sales - doesn’t that warrant a higher standard?

I do agree that the UN is unfairly biased against Israel, though.

Arguably it does warrant a higher standard.  But the fact of the matter is Americans hold an emotional attachment to Israel that they don't have for most other countries.  To cite corporate lobbyists or whoever as the reason for support for Israel is to insult the values of many (if not most) Americans.
Gay ethnostate!
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