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« on: October 14, 2019, 07:22:00 PM »

I could see something happening where one side keeps grabbing up more and more power until people just tune out to the point that things don't get done anymore. After a while something bad happens or a series of unfortunate events occur and then it becomes apparent that we are not really a country any more. My guess is that we eventually just evolve into a bunch of large estates and communes. Some are already arguing that it is already happening.  I doubt there will be any foreign power penetrating the continent but maybe in a few hundred years it could happen.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2019, 09:19:39 AM »

The fact over half say yes (18-17) shows just how far our political climate has gone downhill.

Civil war? No. Widespread political violence? Possibly.

Worse probable case scenario is that liberal areas in conservative states and vice versa become "no go" areas for police and regulators. I can see places like St. Louis, South Florida and Atlanta basically being left to fend for themselves and heavily subsidized by liberal NGOs and companies as state authorities abandon and isolate these communities. The same pattern is also developing in the desert between the Cascades and Sawtooths. Perhaps even upstate NY and the eastern plains. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2019, 06:17:51 PM »

No, even if we do reach the point that one half of America legitimately wanted to kill the other and vice versa, we're too fat and lazy to actually leave the couch and go fight a war.

Hopefully, the young are still spry enough to fight a war. It's one of the few cards they hold over geriatrics intent on destroying their future.

The youth are fat and can’t even be bothered to vote once every two years because it conflicts with their League of Legends schedule.

Obesity makes things hard. I wonder if all this fat will one day really be needed.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2019, 01:39:32 PM »

the economy is strong, unemployment is low

How do people still not realize these statistics don't calculate the full situation?

The economy was great before the Civil War. There was a panic a few years earlier but the First Industrial revolution was hitting at least the north like never before.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2019, 08:57:10 AM »

I think that it would take a repeal of the 2nd amendment, high taxation of churches, and slavery reparations to get conservatives to start a civil war. But liberals would never start a civil war because their too physically weak, emotionally soft, and anti gun go take any real action.

Most of them are normie virgin cucks and not Chad edgelords.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2019, 01:49:59 PM »

Yes, I'm quite concerned that we will spiral into a civil war. Especially if either side decides to pack the Supreme Court, and/or if the Supreme Court gives us a neo-Lochner Era.

Can your average American tell you what the Lochner Era was? Or even what the Court decided in Lochner? RBG is the most prominent SCOTUS Justice with 25% name recognition. Americans do not care about the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court is important as the final arbiter of issues that aren't/can't be settled by elections. It's also important in a symbolic way as the top court in the land in that it represents the legitimacy of our entire legal system. Popular knowledge of the Lochner Era and the names of individual justices is irrelevant. What matters is that people have some confidence that the court will at least attempt to rule in a fair manner. Perhaps suprisingly to some on this forum, polling shows that people do have confidence in the Court.

If the Supreme Court loses its legitimacy with large portions of the public, we're going to be in real trouble. For example, imagine a scenario where the Supreme Court struck down Obamacare in 2012, and then decided the election for Romney in a Bush v. Gore-style decision. Or imagine a scenario where Democrats pack the Supreme Court, and the court rules adversely against a future Republican president in impeachment proceedings.

I suspect this is why Roberts voted to uphold Obamacare, and why I don't think he (or potentially Gorsuch or Alito) would vote to allow blatant Republican election rigging, such as if Wisconsin votes for Warren or Sanders but the legislature refuses to certify their electors.

Yeah, I don't have much in common with him ideologically, but I really respect Roberts for upholding Obamacare even while his four conservative colleagues voted to strike it down. Him being on the bench gives me a lot more faith in the Court than I would probably have otherwise.

What would it be like? I mean, the worse thing that could happen is that an adverse decision becomes the litmus test for the opposition, right?
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