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« on: November 12, 2019, 11:43:58 PM »

This is a commonsense and ambitious proposal which seeks to keep dangerous weapons off of our streets. The time has come for common sense gun reform in Lincoln. This bill seeks to attain that and move us closer to our goal of a safer Lincoln. I urge the Council to vote AYE on this bill.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2019, 08:14:55 AM »

I’m sorry I was away, I had some real life things to do

An AWB would absolutely create a black market, and suggesting it wouldn't is silly. That's also operating under the assumption that people who already own one are willing to give them up, which you know they won't.

As I did say, from a GM perspective banning possession is certainly going to create problems with effective enforcement.
And on the AWB, America had an AWB for a decade from '94-'04 and there are AWBs in effect in 7 states and DC. The overwhelming weight of evidence is that AWBs are generally ineffective in actually reducing the rate of gun crime. Meanwhile there isn't much evidence of large black markets as assault weapons aren't particularly useful or effective to anyone who needs a gun.
If you ban Assault Weapons nothing happens because Assault Weapon ownership is pretty small and the definition is inherently a meaningless line in the sand. The small demand that there is for Assault Weapons just moves to other almost identical firearms that barely squeeze under the definition and are  basically identical in power anyway.

It's also worth noting that SNJC is incorrectly defining assault weapons under this bill as any semiautomatic firearm. Almost every modern gun in the hands of civilians is semiautomatic. You cannot possibly argue that is reasonable and can be enforced.

Yes the definition of assault weapons is pretty illogical. Basically all modern American consumer firearms would qualify as "Assault Weapons" under this legislation.


Incorrect, this bill specifies that assault weapons are only semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns, which can accept detachable magazines, as well as revolving cylindrical shotguns, and weapons that have a folding or collapsible stock, a bayonet lug, a threaded barrel, a grenade launcher, or a barrel shroud.

Either way, I don’t have anything else to add and will motion for a final vote
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2019, 06:44:04 PM »

Yeah, Section IV is probably something that cannot be done regionally, so I will object to the motion for a final vote, so that an amendment can quickly fix this minor issue.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2019, 07:34:26 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2019, 10:30:25 PM »

Proposing an amendment
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Lincoln Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act

SECTION I: NAME

1. This bill may be cited as the Lincoln Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act.
2. This bill may, in short, be cited as the Lincoln Assault Weapon Ban Act.

SECTION II: ASSAULT WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a regiowide ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of assualt weapons, these weapons include semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns, which can accept detachable magazines, as well as revolving cylindrical shotguns.

2. Any weapon that is purchased, sold, or possessed may not have a folding or collapsible stock, a bayonet lug, a threaded barrel, a grenade launcher, or a barrel shroud.

SECTION III: AUTOMATIC WEAPON BAN

1. There shall be a ban on the purchasing, sale, or possession of fully automatic weapons, also known as Title II weapons under the National Firearms Act.

SECTION IV: LEGAL LIABILITIES FOR GUN MANUFACTURERS

1. Gun manufacturers may be sued if their weapons are used in violent crimes, by family members, close friends, and/or legal counsel of family members or close friends of gun violence victims.

2. Manufacturers may be sued for up to $15 million.

3. These cases will be be submitted to, heard, and ruled on by Lincoln's regional Justice.


SECTION V IV: GUN TAX

1. There shall be a 15% additional tax imposed on all shotguns

2. There shall be a 30% additional tax imposed on all handguns and pistols

3. There shall be a 50% additional tax imposed on all other firearms, that are legal to purchase, under this bill.

SECTION VI V: TIMING

1. This bill shall take effect, one week after being signed by the Governor.

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2019, 12:19:26 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2019, 11:27:42 PM »

Motion for a final vote
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2019, 12:44:38 PM »

AYE!
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