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Franzl
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« on: December 07, 2009, 09:05:25 AM »
To be honest, I don't really approve of this. I don't like increasing party influence.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 11:00:55 AM »
Quote from: PASOK Leader Hashemite on December 07, 2009, 10:58:55 AM
Perhaps this could be used only for non-STV elections with one candidate/party/office, you get my drift.

That would be far better in my opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 05:58:11 PM »
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I hereby open the final vote on this legislation.

Please vote AYE, NAY or ABSTAIN.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2009, 06:01:08 PM »
Aye
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 04:43:34 AM »
Aye: 3
Nay: 1
Abstain: 1
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 07:33:26 PM »
Aye: 3
Nay: 1
Abstain: 2

(Again without Marokai's vote now that he has resigned.)

One more vote in favor is required for passage.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 05:20:31 PM »
Aye: 3
Nay: 3
abstain: 2

All senators have voted, and it is a tie.

The Vice President must decide this.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 06:23:49 PM »
Quote from: Senator Fritz on December 12, 2009, 06:15:26 PM
Don't we have 24 hours to change our votes?  One of the abstainers could change.

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But I don't think this applies here, considering it has neither enough to pass nor fail. Every senator has voted though.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 06:46:19 PM »
Quote from: Senator Fritz on December 12, 2009, 06:30:44 PM
I think the 24-hour rule for changing votes ought to be applied in this case.  Clearly the intent of the law, even if not explicitly stated.  But your call I guess, Franzl.

True, I'll allow it unofficially.


Senators, you have 24 hours to change your votes before I present this bill to the Vice President.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 06:57:43 PM »
Quote from: Prodigy on December 12, 2009, 06:56:05 PM
I disagree with Fritz. If legislation in the queue or on the floor is removed, why wouldn't the votes be? It's clear that the Senator's removal means all his standing legislative work is undone, including votes.

It's not about missing senators, just that the vote is tied.
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2009, 04:21:41 AM »
I reverse my earlier declaration that we have a tied vote.

For the reasons outlined in the Regional Self Determination thread, I will be counting Marokai's vote.

Therefore:

Aye: 3
Nay: 4
abstain: 2


Senators, this legislation has enough votes to fail. You have 24 hours to change your votes.
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2009, 08:52:49 AM »
Aye: 4
Nay: 4
Abstain: 1


We have a tied vote here, which the Vice President needs to decide.

I do not believe I am legally required to give 24 hours to change votes if the vote is tied.

I'd like to present this to the Vice President tonight, so I'm allowing senators to change votes until 4pm Eastern (about 7 hours from now).
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 10:33:38 AM »
So yeah....I did let it go for 24 hours anyway. Smiley

This vote is tied. I hereby request that the Vice President break it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 03:38:36 AM »
With the Vice President's tie breaking vote in favor of this bill, it passes.

I hereby present it to the President for his signature or veto.
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