Politico:Rush Limbaugh: GOP ‘surrenders’

[Franzl]

The GOP is being realistic and allowing government to govern. Truly barbaric.

Indeed.  It seems that with all this talk of bi-partisanship that most partisans only want the other party to be bi-partisan, but crucify any of their own members that try to be bi-partisan.  That's what happened to the Democrats in Jim Matheson, Dan Boren, and Joe Lieberman and that's what happened to the Republicans in Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist, and Mike Bloomberg.

You're (oddly) assuming that both parties' policies are equally good and reasonable.

[Franzl]

The GOP is being realistic and allowing government to govern. Truly barbaric.

Indeed.  It seems that with all this talk of bi-partisanship that most partisans only want the other party to be bi-partisan, but crucify any of their own members that try to be bi-partisan.  That's what happened to the Democrats in Jim Matheson, Dan Boren, and Joe Lieberman and that's what happened to the Republicans in Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist, and Mike Bloomberg.

You're (oddly) assuming that both parties' policies are equally good and reasonable.

I'm saying the Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.

Again, this assumes that the half-way mark between what Democrats and Republicans want is the ideal solution.

[Franzl]

The GOP is being realistic and allowing government to govern. Truly barbaric.

Indeed.  It seems that with all this talk of bi-partisanship that most partisans only want the other party to be bi-partisan, but crucify any of their own members that try to be bi-partisan.  That's what happened to the Democrats in Jim Matheson, Dan Boren, and Joe Lieberman and that's what happened to the Republicans in Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist, and Mike Bloomberg.

You're (oddly) assuming that both parties' policies are equally good and reasonable.

I'm saying the Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.

Again, this assumes that the half-way mark between what Democrats and Republicans want is the ideal solution.

I am a Democrat, but in no way do I believe that Democrats are better than Republicans.  Nor do I believe Republicans are better than Democrats.  To think such a thing is ludicrous in my mind.

What do you mean "better"? If their policies aren't better, why declare yourself a Democrat?

It's ludicrous to stand for "bi-partisanship" merely for the sake of bi-partisanship.

[Franzl]

That's one thing, whether you believe in Republican social values. (They really only survive at all through the radical Christian wing caring about nothing else.)

The point is there is objectively smart and dumb policy. In this tax/debt debate, Republicans really haven't offered anything of substance or anything constructive. (At least until VERY recently, after the election) To believe the 50-yard line is to be desired...is just irrational.