Is the British Labour Party anti-Semitic?

[CumbrianLefty]

It is a party with anti-Semites in it, just like any other significant organisation.

Unfortunately, quantifying the problem any more precisely than that runs into two key obstacles:

1) the way certain people have shamelessly turned AS into a crude factional weapon against the present leadership;

2) the device ardent Likudists are fond of - expanding AS to cover virtually all criticism of Israel and its government.

Maybe the coming report will shed some actual light on all this. Or perhaps not that much, depressingly.

[CumbrianLefty]

Just a question to those who have queried my post above - so what do you think a Corbyn-led government would actually *do* to harm Jewish people if it was in power?

This is a fairly important thing regarding any supposed AS tendencies, but never seems to get a proper answer.

[CumbrianLefty]

Just a question to those who have queried my post above - so what do you think a Corbyn-led government would actually *do* to harm Jewish people if it was in power?

This is a fairly important thing regarding any supposed AS tendencies, but never seems to get a proper answer.

How would we know?

There's scenarios where it's limited to harassing "Zionists" out of public service and continuing their ongoing process of sweeping antisemitic harassment and abuse under the rug.

There's also scenarios where, holding the wheels of power, things move very fast and very bloody with no chance for British Jewry to escape.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to not find out?

No such "scenarios" exist, save in the minds of those who are utterly and terminally deranged.

The main thing that may *actually* happen is that those lobbying for Israel might not get as favourable treatment.

Of course, even this will be intolerable AS to some.

[CumbrianLefty]

Go on then, you explain to me how a few people s***posting on Twitter is going to lead to a new Kristallnacht.

[CumbrianLefty]

Bevin was indeed a pretty unashamed anti-Semite, yes. Which makes his adoption as a poster boy by some of the "Eustonite" brigade in recent years all the more ironic.

[CumbrianLefty]

the British irony thing was the most repulsive thing he's said though tbh.

But that's the point in a way, granted it was somewhat crass and tasteless - but compared to what Farage said, or indeed the far from unknown Tory conspiracy theorising about Soros?

[CumbrianLefty]

Between "But I didn't know Shylock was Jewish!" and the Hey Jews/Hey Jude thing Labour has certainly done a wonderful job to address concerns on the matter in the past few days.

Is this the "thing" which there is absolutely no evidence for, save the (highly dubious) word of a single hack? And has been denied by literally everybody else who was on the trip??

One of the chief media witchfinders in chief of Labour AS, the Graun's Jonathan Freedland, grossly libelled a totally innocent man on Twitter yesterday. I don't suppose that sort of thing bothers you though - all collateral damage in a greater "cause" innit.

[CumbrianLefty]

Apologies to Lumine for being a bit snappy last night, not for the first time cp sums things up well.