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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« on: November 18, 2008, 05:48:26 PM »

Why exactly can't a judge, you know, judge?
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Xahar
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 06:43:32 PM »

What is the purpose of this legislation?

First-degree murder will usually get life as it is.
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Xahar
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 10:48:41 AM »

i will vote nay on this, and i think we have enough votes to get it off of the floor.

cloture, please.

     Well sure you do if you try to head off an attempt to amend the bill.
Which is why cloture will fail and here is the proposed amendment:

To change "fifteen (15)" to "five (5)" in Section 2

To add a section 3 reading:
This law will only pertain to defendants charged after their eighteenth (18th) birthday


Again, what's the point fo this legislation?
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2008, 06:22:44 PM »

Nay, why have a senate and debate if every bill is just tabled when it doesn't fit with the European liberal agenda?

You haven't explained your reasoning here.
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Xahar
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 06:14:58 PM »

Nay, why have a senate and debate if every bill is just tabled when it doesn't fit with the European liberal agenda?

You haven't explained your reasoning here.
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 06:18:38 PM »

Nay, why have a senate and debate if every bill is just tabled when it doesn't fit with the European liberal agenda?

You haven't explained your reasoning here.
I fail to understand what you are trying to imply.  Its a statement of fact

For the bill, I mean.
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Хahar 🤔
Xahar
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 06:26:33 PM »

Oh, the reasoning behind the bill is two fold.  The first is that if you are guaranteed to receive 25 years for committing first degree murder, it would serve as a deterrent to some.  Second, it allows for more uniform standards and prevents judicial activism

Where's the need for this? Judicial activism hasn't been a problem by any standards when it comes to sentencing for violent crimes, and first-degree murder will generally get you life.
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