Rioting in Paris

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In fact FN is asking something like twice a month for Chirac's resignation, even if nothing's happening, so ...

LOL

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Nah, Sarkozy is getting what he desserves. He's the Ministre de l'Intérieur, which means he's in charge of the security of the French population. and he failed. Of course Villepin has some responsibility in there, but if one should be expelled from the government, it would be Sarkozy.

Ah, but Sarkozy wants to deal with the Situation, while Villepin sympathizes with the scum as they're anti-American too.  Villepin opposes arresting the scum.

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Yeah, I suppose that's the reason.


Sarkozy: Monsieur premier ministre, the suburbs are on fire! Let me crush those Muslims with the only language they understand: brutal, merciless force.

Villepin: So, Muslims you say?

Sarkozy: Yes, thousands of them.

Villepin: Mhm... I've read somewhere that Muslims are hating Americans.

Sarkozy: That's true, monsieur premier ministre. They hate them for their freedoms.

Villepin: AH! In this case let them have their fun! Enemies of this awful United States can't be so bad after all.

Sarkozy: *sigh* But the suburbs!

Villepin: Suburbs suck anyway.

Sarkozy: *rolls eyes*

Villepin: And with some luck the riots will even reach Disneyland Paris and this terrible monument of American cultural imperialism will be wiped off the face of Earth once and for all!

Sarkozy: Mon Dieu!

Villepin: Nicolas, you know that we we're a secular state. No more mentions of God in my present, please. And now leave. I will have dinner with the Ambassador of Iran in half an hour.

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Responding to Hank Scorpio's last post

You caught Vellepin very accurately.

Yeah, sure, but only your undifferentiated interpretation of him I suppose.

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It's incredible to me how everyone in the WORLD bashes Bush for Katrina and Iraq and everything else... but who is condemning Chirac?

Isn't it obvious?  Bush has made enemies of the vast majority of people in the entire world.  Most people hate him, many quite passionately.  Chirac on the other hand people don't mind, since he's never done any harm.

I would strongly refute that last point. Remember the controversy Chirac sparked with the atomic tests in Mururoa Atoll? He wasn't exactly popular back then.

Ah, those were times. I think I can still remember the "Fu** Chirac!" t-shirts some wore in my school back then. Incredible how long the old wanker is in office now. But just imagine how unpopular he would be, had he decided to invade Iraq.

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This is exactly the kind of thing that will Fascism back to Europe.  There have some reports of rioting in Germany.  Lewis, any thing there?

Cars set afire in Berlin and Bremen

Well, I'm not Lewis, but you won't hinder me to answer it anyway.

The incidents in Germany didn't even remotely have the magnitude of the events in France. In Paris and the other cities literally thousands of cars were set on fire. As the article states, five cars were burned in Berlin, and three in Bremen. That's like comparing a tsunami with a ripple on the water. I hope it stays on that level.

The general opinion in Germany is something like "this could happen here in ten or fifteen years if we don't undertake greater efforts to integrate (juvenile) immigrants into society". I think a main difference to France is that we don't have such numerous public housing-style suburbs where the immigrants were practically exiled and nobody ever bothered about them anymore.

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An article on how the major German newspapers are judging the riots:

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,383634,00.html

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Congrats on a thousand posts Scorpio!

*looks astonished* Hey, you're right. Thanks.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10002025/

It looks like it is getting worse.

Funny, the media reports in Germany are giving the impression that the overall situation (apart from the events in Lyon) has calmed down a bit since curfew has been imposed in France. For example, there was a major soccer match between Germany and France in Paris yesterday and it was feared that riots could happen again during/after the game. But everything stayed calm there this night.