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« on: October 31, 2012, 04:00:47 PM »

California propositions:

Prop 30: No (was torn on this)
Prop 31: Yes
Prop 32: Yes
Prop 33: No
Prop 34: Yes
Prop 35: No
Prop 36: Yes
Prop 37: No
Prop 38: No
Prop 39: Yes (was torn on this)
Prop 40: Yes

Pretty fiscally conservative on the whole.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 03:53:00 PM »

       Anyone have any insight on the ethnic breakdown of the vote on California's prop 30, the tax increase vote.  Republicans nationwide have a fantasy that if they can support an amnesty inclusive immigration bill (with "strict enforcement" of course) they can do significantly better with hispanics. I'd argue that they are a Democratic leaning group regardless, and I'd love to know exactly how they voted on this as a case study of my argument.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll/CA/Issue1

According to the exit poll, they voted almost the same as whites. Asians, inexplicably in my opinion, favored it 60-40. I suspect Asians were close to being tied, Hispanics voted for it but not more than 55-45 and whites likely voted against it by the same amount as they voted against Obama. I don't know if you were going for the "non-whites are ruining this country" argument, but if you were, the facts aren't very convenient for you in this case.

Looking at the county results, it seems like it was the inland areas where prop 30 held up the best as compared to the Obama vote. One of the biggest swings from voting Obama to voting no on 30 happened in Los Angeles County. There are a subset of non-white voters who vote Democrat because they don't like Republicans but that doesn't mean they favor more taxes or giveaways to unions. Republicans have an opportunity with this set of voters if they get their act together.

In any case, we will know even better when the city results are released. I think there will be some huge swings against prop 30 in places like Diamond Bar, Walnut and Irvine, where there are lots of affluent Asians who likely voted Obama. And perhaps in middle class areas where Hispanics are predominate such as West Covina. I'm less sure about this.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 09:49:09 AM »

In the case of Asians, I'll bet they viewed Prop 30 as a pro-education measure. They probably saw it as a good investment and didn't want to see the entire education system in the state of California collapse. I could be wrong, but that seems like the simplest explanation to me. I just don't think steep education cuts appealed to Asians in particular, even if it meant paying a little more in taxes.

Yeah, that is a very good point. I am looking forward to the city results and hopefully some precinct maps. I voted no, but only because I wanted some substantial change on pensions before we raise taxes. But there was a very good chance if this failed, funding to schools and universities would be cut while nothing would happen to pensions. It's infuriating.
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