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« on: May 11, 2016, 12:10:09 PM »

Have we heard anything from McCain? I feel sorry for him, really, since he's up for re-election. Hopefully the voters would understand after what Trump said but right wing bigoted ignoramuses are, well, bigoted mouthbreathing ignoramuses who are likely to be angry McCain isn't getting on the TRUMP train.

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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2016, 02:37:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/capitolwatch/status/740621673402142720

Former Congressman Chris Shays says he's not voting for Trump "under any circumstance. I'm not drinking the Kool Aid."


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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2016, 07:29:36 AM »

David Valadao says he can't support Trump.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-republican-in-heavily-latino-district-1466711716-htmlstory.html

"I am disappointed with the divisive rhetoric coming from this Presidential Election and cannot support either candidate. I cannot back a candidate who denigrates people based on their ethnicity, religion, or disabilities,"

TRUMP couldn't buy off the poorest member of Congress.  Sad!
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2016, 12:17:47 PM »

While Pressler is comparing the Trumpistas to the Nazis:

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 10:34:52 AM »

While Pressler is comparing the Trumpistas to the Nazis:

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Might be talking about this:

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There were other conflicts between various levels of US government and the Mormons as well, including the death of founder Joseph Smith

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The Mormons have good reasons to worry about TrumpMiller.

Oh yes, absolutely.  But it's really curious to say that Mormons and Jews are the only religious groups that have faced attempted extermination by a government. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2016, 05:26:00 PM »

Donald Trump gave a strong, unqualified endorsement of John McCain, in sufficient time for the Arizona GOP Senate primary.  This is politics; I can't think of a better way to say "I'm sorry!" than such a gesture. 

That's not good enough for Jeffy Flaky?  Wowsers!  One of two things is true.  Either (A) he just doesn't get that politics is a team sport, or (B) he's one of these "free trade" neocon Republicans that never intended to support Trump because of the support they get from those who profit off of "free trade".  There's nothing Trump could have done to get Flake's support, period. 

And good for Trump to show he's not going to be pushed around by the "demands" of folks like Flake.  Flake wants Trump to damage his campaign with "apologies", which are never accepted, and do nothing but convince Trump's enemies that they were right all along about him.  He shouldn't have made some of these comments, but this is politics, and the demands that he apologize from folks like Flake are insincere.  He needs an excuse for the 2018 primary voters he'll surely have to face.

You are criticizing Jeff Flake for not being a team player at the same time as you are supporting Trump?
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2016, 09:18:09 PM »

Donald Trump gave a strong, unqualified endorsement of John McCain, in sufficient time for the Arizona GOP Senate primary.  This is politics; I can't think of a better way to say "I'm sorry!" than such a gesture. 

That's not good enough for Jeffy Flaky?  Wowsers!  One of two things is true.  Either (A) he just doesn't get that politics is a team sport, or (B) he's one of these "free trade" neocon Republicans that never intended to support Trump because of the support they get from those who profit off of "free trade".  There's nothing Trump could have done to get Flake's support, period. 

And good for Trump to show he's not going to be pushed around by the "demands" of folks like Flake.  Flake wants Trump to damage his campaign with "apologies", which are never accepted, and do nothing but convince Trump's enemies that they were right all along about him.  He shouldn't have made some of these comments, but this is politics, and the demands that he apologize from folks like Flake are insincere.  He needs an excuse for the 2018 primary voters he'll surely have to face.

You are criticizing Jeff Flake for not being a team player at the same time as you are supporting Trump?

I'm making the observation that, as Rick Santorum accurately said in 2012, "Politics is a Team Sport".  In that vein, I view the failure of a politician in elected office (and, especially, at the state or national level) who doesn't support their party's national ticket as a one-way bus fare to ineffectiveness and oblivion. 

The Presidential nominee who, while in high office, was the coolest to his party's nominee prior to running for President, was, undoubtedly, Jimmy Carter in 1972.  Even there, Jimmy Carter, while noting that McGovern was losing Georgia 2 to 1 (he ended up losing it 3 to 1) made it clear that he would vote for McGovern, even though he would not campaign with him.  Ronald Reagan's differences with Ford were overstated in the press; he made an unqualified endorsement of Ford and repeated it several times during the campaign. 

No politician in history has done what, say, Ted Cruz has done and been nominated for the Presidency.  No one has done what, say, Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller have done and been nominated for the Presidency.  Indeed, mere failure to support their party's opposition ticket has made toast of more than one career.  George Romney.  Nelson Rockefeller.  William Scranton.  George Wallace.  (Had Wallace remained a Democrat and NOMINALLY supported the Democratic ticket, even if simply by saying "I'm voting for the ticket, but I'm not asking anyone else to.", he may well have been the 1976 Democratic nominee, and not Carter.)  A number of Nixon Democrats or, at a minimum, non-McGovern Democrats in 1972 lost their committee chairs in 1974.  A number of 1972 Democrats who did not support McGovern lost primaries afterward, including Lester Maddox, Dolph Briscoe, and Ed Edmondson. 

The Republicans who refuse to back Trump will be toast, all in due time.  If Donald Trump is not elected, Mike Pence, the SUPERSTAR of this fall's election, climbs to the top of the 2020 GOP heap, and NO ONE will supplant him.  And Pence will not reward those who abandoned a ticket with him on it.  Flake, who's kind of stupid, IMO, will be one of those folks.  He's worked to find a way to NOT support Trump, and he's found it.  And he'll be primaried out of office in 2018 because he's too stupid to be loyal.

The #NeverTrump crowd is in the process of destroying their political careers as Republicans.  For many of them, the only hope they'll have is the option to become Democrats, and then, they'll have to hope that their switch is credible.

I don't think you get the concept of a "team sport."  It doesn't mean the other players have to support the team captain while the team captain gets to kick the other players in the shin.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2016, 09:17:11 PM »

Both Cruz and Fiorina have said in recent days that they'll vote for Trump.  Of course, neither of them ever ruled it out in the past, they were simply noncommittal.  So they weren't listed in the list in the OP, which remains unchanged.  I think with regard to Trump's primary opponents who have not yet said they'll support him, we're down to:

Bush
Graham
Kasich
Pataki

And for US Senators, the ones who are left who have not said that they'll support Trump are:

Collins
Flake
Graham
Heller
Kirk
Lee
Murkowski
Sasse
Toomey

Some of those folks are #NeverTrump, as they've ruled out supporting him.  Others have left open the possibility of backing him, but haven't indicated their support as of yet.  Will any more decide to endorse him between now and November?


None of them strike me as likely to endorse.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2016, 04:02:20 PM »

When was the last time RP supported the LP candidate, 2004 I think?
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2016, 02:02:18 PM »

Fred Bauer
‏@fredbauerblog Fred Bauer Retweeted Deb Fischer
Senator Deb Fischer (Neb.) has dropped her support for Trump.

https://twitter.com/fredbauerblog/status/784825359028084740

that's a "step aside," not saying what she'll do if he doesn't.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2016, 07:34:21 PM »

Here's what I have thus far for GOP/Gov; included is anybody who at minimum has called for DJT to step down and at maximum has rescinded their endorsement and called for the same.





add Kasich.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2016, 12:26:32 PM »

All these politicians saying they'll write in the names of people who aren't running for president must be really irritating to McMullin.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2016, 02:03:53 PM »

All due credit to Kasich for not supporting trump. But cmon a wrote in for McCain is a waste of time.

As opposed to a write in for anyone else not running?

C'mon. It's not like he could publicly back Clinton or Johnson and have a future in the GOP.

There's a few conservatives that are *actual* write-in choices though from Evan McMullin to Darrell Castle and others.  Votes for John McCain literally get thrown out.  He's pretty much encouraging people to throw out their votes by doing this.  I know someone will try to say it's the same thing as a vote that counted, but it isn't.  At least when you vote for an actual candidate, it goes down in history in the results instead of just being as if nothing happened.

I find it frustrating myself.  Though I can also understand if most people, even perhaps those involved in public office, may not be aware of these candidates.
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