Greece General Discussion

[MaxQue]

The new government announced some measures today, but didn't see anything about its income tax hike to 75% on incomes beyond 500k euros.  Has it said anything about this yet?

That proposal was in their May 2012 platform and they have not mentioned it since. There was zero mention of tax increases in the platform they ran on in 2015

Well, unless they raise SOME taxes, how are they going to fund their spending - especially, as they are refusing to sell things off.

Honestly, if I were them, I would sell Western Thrace to the Turks. Erdogan would pay a fortune

Well, raising taxes have no use with the widespread tax evasion. Raising taxes on people not paying any won't make any change.

[MaxQue]

The new government announced some measures today, but didn't see anything about its income tax hike to 75% on incomes beyond 500k euros.  Has it said anything about this yet?

That proposal was in their May 2012 platform and they have not mentioned it since. There was zero mention of tax increases in the platform they ran on in 2015

Well, unless they raise SOME taxes, how are they going to fund their spending - especially, as they are refusing to sell things off.

Honestly, if I were them, I would sell Western Thrace to the Turks. Erdogan would pay a fortune

Well, raising taxes have no use with the widespread tax evasion. Raising taxes on people not paying any won't make any change.

Well, he could take their kids hostage, or something.

Well, yes, something has to be done about widespread tax evasion. I happen to think it's more logical to build a solid system preventing it and then raising taxes than the reverse. Doing it the other way would punish people paying taxes and would likely increase tax evasion.

[MaxQue]

The new government announced some measures today, but didn't see anything about its income tax hike to 75% on incomes beyond 500k euros.  Has it said anything about this yet?

That proposal was in their May 2012 platform and they have not mentioned it since. There was zero mention of tax increases in the platform they ran on in 2015

Well, unless they raise SOME taxes, how are they going to fund their spending - especially, as they are refusing to sell things off.

Honestly, if I were them, I would sell Western Thrace to the Turks. Erdogan would pay a fortune

Well, raising taxes have no use with the widespread tax evasion. Raising taxes on people not paying any won't make any change.

Well, he could take their kids hostage, or something.

Well, yes, something has to be done about widespread tax evasion. I happen to think it's more logical to build a solid system preventing it and then raising taxes than the reverse. Doing it the other way would punish people paying taxes and would likely increase tax evasion.

Ok, fine. Do Germans have to coninue financing Greek government in the interim?

Their choice, but, you know, even ND would have needed more money. You can't turn around the economical situation of a country in 6 months!

[MaxQue]

Eurogroup has agreed on a bridge loan. Greek interior minister says a snap September or October election is likely.

An snap election in under one year?

They really don't like this bailout program. So not only will the full 83 billion tranche is not going to be released. But most likely a grexit if a hypotectical Syriza-B splitting from the main party, made up of the rebels. comes to power that promises to leave the eurozone.  Or just Syriza itself if they decide to oust tsipras over the agreement and want a grexit.

Its not like Syriza has any other objectives at this point after failing to negotiate and trying to create a standoff. to force the EU to give them unlimited euros for a "stimulus programme" along with debt "forgiveness".

Well, I thought that was pretty much mandatory. EU wants things than needs constitutionnal amendments and such amendments must pass in two consecutive Parliaments.

[MaxQue]

Tsipras just made minister Dimitris Kammenos. He is a cousin of Panos and a well-known homophobe and anti-semite who thinks that 9/11 was a jewish conspiracy.
How lovely! 

If I was responsible of the opinions of my cousins and extented family...

I have racists, bigots, communists and theocrats (but mostly normal, centrist or center-left people). Am I a terrible person because of that?