Muon2 Diplomacy Game B

[muon2]

Since it now appears that the Gallery will be available, I feel comfortable in starting a thread for a new game. Here is what I propose based on the 2018 game A.

The game takes seven players, and I agree to judge the game. The official rules (5th edition) are here and includes a lot of examples. There is a abbreviated wikibooks version, too.

As before, the game will be based on turns of one move per week. Orders are sent by pm to the Judge by Friday 11:59 pm US Central Time (Daylight Saving Time when applicable). The judge will post the result of moves and issues requests for retreats and adjustments. Players are expected to respond promptly for retreats and adjustments on Saturday or Sunday, with a deadline at the Judge's discretion. The new position after retreats and adjustments will be made available by 11:59 pm US Central Time Sunday.

The Judge can declare vacation breaks based on the Judge's schedule or player requests, such as over the Labor Day weekend. In the event of a player formally abdicating by post or pm to the Judge, a minimum of one extra week will be allowed for the turn to facilitate replacing the player.

The 5.0 rules require the Judge to interpret illegal orders accordingly and cause the unit to Hold. This caused some distress among players in game A, and I propose a house rule to provide some relief. The Judge will notify a player if a submitted move is illegal, and the player will have 6 hours after notification to submit a revised move for those deemed illegal. Illegal orders include any that cannot be parsed by JDip which is used for map creation. Note that legal but unintended orders, such as ordering two different units to the same area would still be adjudicated as written. Similarly units given no orders are presumed to Hold and are not considered illegal orders.

Other house rules may be added by unanimous consent of the players and Judge.

Seven players will be selected randomly from those who respond by 11:59 pm CDT Friday Aug 16. If fewer than seven players respond by that time, an additional week will be added with initial respondents guaranteed places in the game. If more than seven players sign up, then those players not chosen will be given priority if a vacancy occurs.

[muon2]

I count 6 players signed up by last night. I'll add another week to get more players. If more than one additional player signs up, then the six signed up are guaranteed spots and the seventh spot will be determined by a random draw with the others available as alternates should a player abandon their position.

I'll be traveling over Labor Day weekend, so if we get a game started next weekend I'll allow two weeks for negotiation on the first move.

[muon2]

Thank you all for agreeing to play the game. Here are the assignments:

Austria: TJ in Oregon
England: Gustaf
France: Georgia Moderate
Italy: NOVA Green
Germany: YPestis25
Russia: Cath
Turkey: S019

Alternate: Oregon Blue Dog

This is the initial position (winter 1900):

AUS: A bud, F tri, A vie
ENG: F edi, F lon, A lvp
FRA: F bre, A mar, A par
GER: A ber, F kie, A mun
ITA: F nap, A rom, A ven
RUS: A mos, F sev, F stp(sc), A war
TUR: F ank, A con, A smy



The orders for Spring 1901 are due Fri Sep 6, 11:59 pm CDT.

[muon2]

Question: can preliminary orders be submitted and then amended before the deadline or are the orders we submit final?

I welcome preliminary orders, since they are the best insurance against missing the deadline. I will consider only the last submitted orders before the deadline. The exception is the house rule that will provide for correction of illegal orders.

[muon2]

Spring 1901

In my reports for orders I will use A for army, F for fleet, and the three-letter abbreviations for areas, with a /nc or /sc for fleet positions in areas that have two coasts. To avoid ambiguity it is best to include the coast for those areas in all orders involving fleets. Moves are indicated  by ->, and failed orders are underlined. Comments about orders are italicized.


Austria:
        A bud -> ser
        F tri -> alb
        A vie Holds

England:
        F edi -> nwg
        A lvp -> edi
        F lon -> nth

France:
        F bre -> mao
        A mar -> pie
          Bounced with ven (1 against 1).
        A par -> bur
          Bounced with mun (1 against 1).

Germany:
        A ber -> kie
        F kie -> den
        A mun -> bur
          Bounced with par (1 against 1).

Italy:
        F nap -> ion
        A rom -> apu
        A ven -> pie
          Bounced with mar (1 against 1).

Russia:
        A mos -> ukr
        F sev -> bla
        F stp/sc -> bot
        A war Holds

Turkey:
        F ank Holds
        A con Holds
        A smy Holds
     


No retreats are needed. The position after moves is this.

 
 
Orders for Fall 1901 are due Friday Sep 13 at 11:59 pm CDT.

[muon2]

Did Turkey not submit orders?

Orders were submitted and executed. If no orders are received, I will indicate that with an italicized comment.

[muon2]

Fall 1901
The house rule permitting changes to illegal orders came up twice this turn. In one case the player submitted a timely correction which was used. In the other case no correction was issued in time and the illegal order (shown as strikethrough) was interpreted as no order given.

There are no retreats necessary. Unit adjustments are shown with the orders below. Please pm me your builds (type and location) as soon as possible, but no later than 11:59 pm CDT tonight.
   
Austria: 5 supply centers, 3 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        F alb -> gre
        A ser -> bul
          Bounced with con (1 against 1).
        A vie -> tri
     
England: 5 supply centers, 3 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        A edi -> bel
          Convoy path taken: edi->nth->bel.
        F nth Convoys A edi -> bel
        F nwg -> nwy
     
France: 5 supply centers, 3 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        A mar -> spa
        F mao -> por
        A par -> bur
          Bounced with mun (1 against 1).
       
Germany: 5 supply centers, 3 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        F den Holds
        A kie -> hol
        A mun -> bur
          Bounced with par (1 against 1).
       
Italy: 4 supply centers, 3 units. Units that may be built: 1.
        A apu -> tun
          Convoy path taken: apu->ion->tun.
        F ion Convoys A apu -> tun
        A ven Holds
     
Russia: 6 supply centers, 4 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        F bla Supports A ukr -> rum
        F bot ->swe
        A ukr -> rum
        A war Holds
     
Turkey: 3 supply centers, 3 units. No adjustments.
        F ank -> sev
          No legal order for unit at Ankara. Hold order assigned.
        A con -> bul
          Bounced with ser (1 against 1).
        A smy Holds
     


The position before adjustments is this.

[muon2]

Winter 1901 Adjustments:

Austria: Builds A bud, A vie
England: Builds F edi, A lon
France: Builds F bre, A mar
Germany: Builds A ber, F kie
Italy: Builds F nap
Russia: Builds A sev, A stp

This is the position to begin 1902.



I will be traveling next weekend. The orders for Spring 1902 are due by Thursday Sep 19, 11:59 pm CDT.

[muon2]

Spring 1902

Turkey did not submit orders this turn. If S019 wants to continue playing then he should post on this thread to confirm interest. If S019 does not post here by Sunday 9/22, Oregon Blue Dog is welcome to take over Turkey's position and should post to confirm that interest.

There are no retreats needed from this turn. Because of my travel plans, the orders for Fall 1902 will be due on Sunday Sep 29 by 11:59 pm CDT.

Austria:
        A bud -> ser
        F gre -> ion
          Bounced with ion (1 against 2).
        A ser -> bul
        A tri Supports A vie -> tyr
        A vie -> tyr

England:
        A bel Supports A lon -> hol
        F edi -> nwg
        A lon -> hol
          Bounced with hol (2 against 2). Convoy path taken: lon->nth->hol.
        F nth Convoys A lon -> hol
        F nwy Holds

France:
        F bre -> mao
        A mar -> bur
        A par Supports A mar -> bur
        F por -> spa/sc
        A spa -> mar
      
Germany:
        A ber -> mun
        F den Holds
        A hol Holds
        F kie Supports A hol
        A mun -> ruh
      
Italy: No order for unit at Venice. Hold order assigned.
        F ion Convoys A tun -> apu
        F nap Supports F ion
        A tun -> apu
          Convoy path taken: tun->ion->apu.
        A ven Holds
      
Russia:
        F bla Supports A sev -> arm
        A rum Supports A ser -> bul
        A sev -> arm
        A stp Holds
        F swe Holds
        A war Holds

Turkey: No orders received. All units ordered to Hold.
        F ank Holds
        A con Holds
        A smy Holds
      


This is the position to begin Fall 1902.

[muon2]

There's a downside to processing orders at 4 am. In this case it was a mouse click to the wrong sea for the Austrian F Gre. It was ordered to Ion, but my mouse was on Aeg when I clicked. With bleary eyes and no coffee yet, I missed the error.

I am away from my computer until the 29th, so I can't reprocess the map until then. With the corrected order, F Gre -> Ion bounces against the supported F Ion and remains in Gre. The position for Fall 1902 begins with the Austrian F in Gre not Aeg.

When I return I will modify the map, but you'll need to work from this erratum when you are planning orders for Fall.

[muon2]

Since S019 did not respond and Oregon Blue Dog did, I'm declaring that OBD is the new player for Turkey, effective this turn, Fall 1902. If you know of any others who might also willing to take over abandoned positions, please invite them to post their interest here.

[muon2]

Question:

The Diplomacy 5.0 "House Rules" state the judge can declare a vacation (Which is totally awesome since IRL stuff can and should be built in the equation for the Judge, and Muon2 is allowed to actually have a life as opposed to just being here to host our Diplomacy game!!!

So traditionally orders are due on a weekly basis on Fridays by by 11:59 pm US Central Time, unless there are exceptions.

Question # 1: Can we anticipate that next turn's moves will revert to their traditional posted orders day/time, or will there be an extension, etc???

Main reason I ask is that we have an expanded diplomatic negotiation period this turn, and potentially a shortened once next week, or extended one next week at a point in the game where potential moves or combinations of moves perhaps become slightly more complex than in the traditional opening moves period.....

Since this is a fall turn, there will need to be time for adjustments. There also could be retreats required before the winter adjustments. Typically I will execute these as soon as they come in, but I don't know how long the whole process will take.  I will see when the turn and adjustments are complete and decide if Friday is too short of a deadline.

[muon2]

Fall 1902

All units dislodged had no retreat and were destroyed. Please submit your adjustments as soon as possible, but no later than 11:59 pm CDT tonight (Mon)

Austria: 6 supply centers, 5 units. Units that may be built: 1.
        A bul Supports A rum -> con
        F gre -> ion
          Bounced with nap (1 against 1).
        A ser -> tri
          Bounced with tyr (1 against 1).
        A tri -> vie
        A tyr -> tri
          Bounced with ser (1 against 1).
        
England: 5 supply centers, 5 units. No adjustments.
        A bel Supports A bur -> ruh
        A lon -> hol
          Bounced with hol (1 against 1). Convoy path taken: lon->nth->hol.        
        F nth Convoys A lon -> hol
        F nwy Holds
        F nwg Supports F nwy
      
France: 5 supply centers, 5 units. No adjustments.
        A bur -> ruh
        A mar Supports A par -> bur
        F mao -> wes
          Bounced with spa (1 against 1).
        A par -> bur
        F spa/sc -> wes
          Bounced with mao (1 against 1).
        
Germany: 5 supply centers, 4 units. Units that may be built: 1.
       No orders received, all units ordered to hold.
        F Den Holds
        A Hol Holds
        F Kie Holds
        A Mun Holds
        A Ruh Holds
           Dislodged from bur (2 against 1). Unit cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
        
Italy: 4 supply centers, 4 units. No adjustments.
        A apu Supports A ven
          Support failed. Unit ordered to move.
        F ion -> aeg
        F nap -> ion
          Bounced with gre (1 against 1).
        A ven -> tri
          Bounced with tyr (1 against 1).
        
Russia: 7 supply centers, 6 units. Units that may be built: 1.
        A arm -> ank
          Failed because Turkey: F ank -> bla failed.
        F bla Convoys A rum -> con
        A rum -> con
          Convoy path taken: rum->bla->con.        
        A stp -> fin
        F swe Supports A stp -> fin
        A war -> mos
 
Turkey: 2 supply centers, 2 units. No adjustments.
        F ank -> bla
          Bounced with bla (1 against 1).
        A con -> bul
          Bounced with bul (1 against 1). Dislodged from rum (2 against 1). Unit cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
       A smy -> arm
          Failed because Russia: A arm -> ank failed.
        


This is the position before adjustments.  
    
 

[muon2]

The following adjustments were made:
Austria: Build F tri
Germany: Build A ber
Russia: Build F stp/nc

This is the position to begin Spring 1903.



Orders for Spring 1903 are due by 11:59 pm CDT Friday Oct 4.

[muon2]

Spring 1903

All units dislodged had no retreat and were destroyed. Orders for Fall 1903 are due 11:59 pm CDT Friday Oct 11.

Austria:
        A bul Supports A con
        F gre -> ion
          Bounced with nap (1 against 2).
        A ser -> gre
          Failed because Austria: F gre -> ion failed.
        A tri -> adr
        A tyr Supports A vie -> tri
        A vie -> tri
        
England:
        A bel Supports A lon -> hol
        A lon -> hol
          Convoy path taken: lon->nth->hol.        
        F nth Convoys A lon -> hol
        F nwy -> ska
        F nwg -> nwy
  
France:
        A bur -> mun
          Bounced with ber (1 against 1).
        A mar -> pie
        F mao -> naf
        A par -> bur
        A ruh -> kie
          Bounced with kie (1 against 1).
        F spa/sc -> wes
      
Germany:
           The Army in Holland cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
        A ber -> mun
          Bounced with bur (1 against 1).
        F den -> nth
          Bounced with nth (1 against 1).
        A hol Holds
           Dislodged from lon (2 against 1).        
        F kie Supports A hol
          Support cut by Move from Ruhr.
        A mun -> ruh
          Failed because France: A ruh -> kie failed.

Italy:
        F aeg Supports F nap -> ion
        A apu Supports A ven
        F nap -> ion
        A ven Holds
 
Russia:
        A arm -> ank
        F bla Supports A arm -> ank
        A con Supports A arm -> ank
        A fin -> swe
        A mos Supports F stp/nc
        F stp/nc Holds
        F swe -> bal

Turkey:
          The Fleet in Ankara cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
        F ank -> con
          Bounced with con (2 against 3). Dislodged from arm (3 against 2).
        A smy Supports F ank -> con
      


This is the position to begin Fall 1903.

 

[muon2]

You have an extra order listed for Italy: F Ion-Aeg.

Are they using stealth mercenary fleets?  If so, how can I get some?

Communications 100+ years ago weren't always so prompt. Apparently some of the media were still reporting activity from Fall 1902. The reporters involved have been suitably disciplined.

[muon2]

Well, I guess that's a wrap. Best of luck to you all, and I hope to play again someday.

Thanks for stepping into a tough position. I'll be happy to have you play in the next game.

[muon2]

Fall 1903
Two units are dislodged this turn. Turkey has no supply centers so the A smy is disbanded and Turkey is eliminated. The Russian A swe is dislodged, and may either retreat to fin or disband. If it disbands Russia may build one unit at any open home supply center, otherwise no adjustments are needed. Russia should post their choice to retreat or disband as soon as possible, as it may influence the adjustment decisions for any other power. Adjustments are due by 11:59 pm CDT Sun Oct 13, but I will post the results sooner if I have received adjustments from all powers.

Austria: 7 supply centers, 6 units. Units that may be built: 1.
        F adr -> ion
          Bounced with ion (2 against 2).
        A bul -> con
        F gre Supports F adr -> ion
        A ser Supports F gre
        A tri Supports A tyr -> ven
        A tyr -> ven
          Bounced with ven (2 against 3).

England: 7 supply centers, 5 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        A bel Supports A hol
        A hol Supports A bel
        F nth Supports F nwy
        F nwy Supports F ska -> swe
        F ska -> swe

France: 7 supply centers, 5 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        A bur Supports A ruh -> mun
        F naf -> tun
        A pie Supports A ven
        A ruh -> mun
        F wes -> tys

Germany: 3 supply centers, 4 units. Units that must be removed: 1.
        A ber Holds
        F den Supports F ska -> swe
          Support cut by Move from Baltic Sea.
        F kie Supports A ber
        A mun -> sil

Italy: 3 supply centers, 4 units. Units that must be removed: 1.
        F aeg Supports F ion
        A apu Supports A ven
        F ion Holds
        A ven Holds
 
Russia: 7 supply centers, 7 units. No adjustments.
        A ank Supports A con -> smy
        F bal -> den
          Bounced with den (1 against 1).
        F bla Supports A bul -> con
        A con -> smy
        A mos Supports F stp/nc
        F stp/nc Holds
        A swe Supports F bal -> den
          Support cut by Move from Skagerrak. Dislodged from ska (2 against 1).
 
Turkey: 0 supply centers, 1 unit. A smy disbands. Turkey eliminated.
        No order for unit at Smyrna. Hold order assigned.
        A smy Holds
          Dislodged from con (2 against 1).



This is the position before retreats and adjustments.



Russia's retreat should be posted ASAP. Adjustments should be sent promptly, but no later than 11:59 pm CDT Sun Oct 13.

[muon2]

Russia has retreated A swe -> fin.

[muon2]

The Russian retreat is a reminder that a dislodged unit that could retreat may be disbanded instead. This is the only permitted way to voluntarily disband a unit - in lieu of a required retreat. Otherwise units may only be disbanded when after Fall movement and retreats the Power has fewer supply centers than units. On the other hand a Power is never required to build any or all of the entitled units.

This exception can have strategic consequences. If in this last turn Russia wanted to build another unit in Moscow or Sevastopol, then Russia could have disbanded the unit in Sweden instead of retreating to Finland. Then during the adjustment phase Russia would be at 6 units and 7 supply centers and would be entitled to build on an available home supply center.

[muon2]

Winter 1903
 
The following adjustments were made.

Austria: Builds A vie
England: Builds F edi, A lon
France: Builds F mar, A par
Germany: Removes A sil
Italy: Removes F ion
     
This is the position to begin Spring 1904.



I will be traveling Thu-Sat this week. Moves for Spring 1904 are due 11:59 pm CDT Saturday Oct 19.   
 

[muon2]

Spring 1904

There is one retreat needed from Russia: bal. It can retreat to ber, bot or lvn, or be disbanded. Russia should submit that as soon as possible.

Austria:
        F adr -> ion
          Bounced with tun (2 against 3).
        A con -> bul
        F gre Supports F adr -> ion
        A ser Holds
        A tri Supports A tyr
        A tyr Supports A vie -> boh
        A vie -> boh
      
England:
        A bel -> hol
        F edi -> nwg
        A hol -> kie
        A lon -> nwy
          Bounced with stp (1 against 2). Convoy path taken: lon->nth->nwy.        
        F nth Convoys A lon -> nwy
        F nwy -> bar
        F swe Supports A lon -> nwy
          Support cut by Move from Baltic Sea.
  
France:
        A bur -> mun
        F mar -> lyo
        A mun -> sil
        A par -> bur
        A pie Supports A ven
        F tun -> ion
        F tys Supports F tun -> ion

Germany:
        A ber -> pru
        F den Supports F kie -> bal
        F kie -> bal

Italy:
        F aeg Supports F tun -> ion
        A apu Supports A ven
        A ven Holds

Russia:
        A ank -> con
        F bal -> swe
          Bounced with swe (1 against 1). Dislodged from kie (2 against 1).
        F bla Supports A con -> bul
        A fin Supports F stp/nc -> nwy
        A mos Supports F stp/nc
          Support failed. F stp/nc ordered to move.
        A smy Supports A ank > con
        F stp/nc -> nwy
      


Russia retreats F bal -> bot.

The position to start Fall 1904 is this.



Fall 1904 orders are due 11:59 pm CDT Friday Oct 25.
  

[muon2]

Fall 1904

Italy has no supply centers, is eliminated and all remaining units are disbanded. Russia F nwy is dislodged and may either retreat to ska or disband. Russia may post the retreat decision, or I will post it as soon as I receive it. If Russia disbands F nwy then no adjustments are required; otherwise another unit must be removed.

Adjustment orders are due no later than 11:59 pm CDT Sun Oct 27, but I will post the adjustments as soon as I have received them all.

Austria: 8 supply centers, 7 units. Units that may be built: 1.
        F adr -> apu
          Bounced with apu (1 against 1).
        A boh -> gal
        A bul -> con
          Bounced with smy (1 against 1).
        F gre Holds
        A ser Supports F gre
        A tri Supports A tyr -> ven
        A tyr -> ven

England: 7 supply centers, 7 units: No adjustments.
        F bar Supports F swe -> nwy
        A hol Holds
        A kie -> swe
          Convoy path taken: kie->bal->swe.
        A lon Holds
        F nth Supports F swe -> nwy
        F nwg Supports F swe -> nwy
        F swe -> nwy

France: 9 supply centers, 7 units. Units that may be built: 2.
        A bur Supports A mun
        F lyo Convoys A pie -> rom
        F ion -> nap
        A mun Holds
        A pie -> rom
          Convoy path taken: pie->lyo->tys->rom.
        A sil Supports A pru -> war
        F tys Convoys A pie -> rom

Germany: 4 supply centers, 3 units. Units that may be built: 1.
        F bal Convoys A kie -> swe
        F den Holds
        A pru -> war

Italy: 0 supply centers, 3 units. F aeg disbands, A apu disbands, A ven disbands. Italy eliminated.
        F aeg Supports F tys -> ion
          Support failed. Supported unit's order does not match support given.
        A apu Supports A ven
          Support cut by Move from Adriatic Sea.
        A ven Holds
          Dislodged from tyr (2 against 1).

Russia: 6 supply centers, 7 units. Units that must be removed: 1.
        F bla Convoys A bul -> con
        A con -> rum
          Convoy path taken: con->bla->rum.
        A fin Supports F nwy -> swe
        F bot Supports F nwy -> swe
        A mos -> stp
        F nwy -> swe
          Dislodged from swe (4 against 3).
        A smy -> con
          Bounced with bul (1 against 1).


The map incorrectly shows that A con->rum Convoyed by F bla failed. The move in fact succeeded.

Russia disbands F nwy rather than retreat, so no other adjustments are needed. This is the position before builds.

[muon2]

Winter 1904

Austria: Builds A vie
France: Builds F bre, A par
Germany: Builds A ber

This is the position after adjustments.



Orders for Spring 1905 are due by 11:59 pm Fri Nov 1.

[muon2]

Spring 1905

No retreats are needed this turn. Orders for Fall 1905 are due by 11:59 pm CST Friday Nov 8 (return to standard time).

Austria:
        F adr Holds
        A bul Supports A ser -> rum
        A gal -> ukr
        F gre -> aeg
        A ser -> rum
        A tri -> bud
        A ven Holds
        A vie -> gal

England:
        F bar Supports F nwy -> stp
        A hol Holds
        A lon -> nwy
          Convoy path taken: lon->nth->nwy.
        F nth Convoys A lon -> nwy
        F nwy -> stp/nc
        F nwg Supports A lon -> nwy
        A swe -> fin
          Bounced with fin (1 against 1).

France:
        F bre -> mao
        A bur Supports A mun
        F lyo -> wes
        A mun Supports A bur
        F nap -> ion
        A par -> gas
        A rom Holds
        A sil -> war
          Bounced with war (1 against 1).
        F tys Supports F nap -> ion

Germany:
        F bal Convoys A ber -> lvn
        A ber -> lvn
          Convoy path taken: ber->bal->lvn.
        F den Holds
        A war Holds

Russia:
        F bla -> con
        A fin -> swe
          Bounced with swe (1 against 1).
        F bot -> stp/sc
          Bounced with nwy (1 against 2).
        A rum -> sev
        A smy Supports F bla -> con
        A stp -> mos



This is the position after movement.