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GeneralMacArthur
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« on: November 13, 2019, 02:03:41 AM »
« edited: November 13, 2019, 02:06:42 AM by GeneralMacArthur »

I would vote for Bernie Sanders in a general election if he was up against Trump, but I would vote for a dead dog over Sanders in the primary.

Why?  Because the man is an egotistical, exploitative hack who's built a career out of smears and lies.

His entire persona is based on the smear that every other politician is bought and paid for by billionaires and big corporations, and that's why they won't pass his legislation, and he is the one pure, untainted man.

His whole policy platform is just simplistic populist garbage.  Real health care reform is immensely complicated, and requires 2500 page bills that go into minute detail about different health conditions and services, relationships between providers and insurers, special edge and corner cases, funding mechanisms, and so on.  Imaginary health care reform is when you just say "whatever problem you have, my magic plan will make sure it gets solved, you won't need any other plan."  And all his plans are like this.  A nuanced plan to make some college free, some college more affordable, and make student loans easier to pay off, that's real policy.  "Oh I'll just forgive everyone's debt and make college free" is populist garbage.

But in spite of this, he insists that his positions are the ONLY acceptable positions, that all other positions are CORPORATE, that his fellow Democrats only hold those positions because BILLIONAIRES HAVE BRIBED THEM.

As for how to actually pass his plans?  He's never accomplished anything in Congress, but insists that he and he alone will be able to pass this massive, transformative legislation that is opposed by the vast majority of legislators in both parties and the American people.  There have been two massive health care fights in the last 30 years.  In 1993, Hillary Clinton tried to pass universal health care, and was defeated.  In 2009, Barack Obama worked his tail off to pass universal health care, had to compromise with centrists in his party to get Obamacare, and only barely passed it, then suffered a devastating midterm defeat and had to defend it in court twice.  Trying to pass single payer would make these two battles, both waged with large Democratic majorities, look like cakewalks.  But Bernie, the man who has never accomplished anything, will somehow be able to do the impossible, and we'll just have to trust him on that because whenever he's asked about this he just says REVOLUTION.

So in summary, Bernie's positions are the ONLY acceptable positions.  All other positions are CORPORATE, and his fellow Democrats only hold those positions because they are CORRUPT and have been bribed by BILLIONAIRES.  Despite his positions being impossible to enact into legislation, and him never having written real legislation for them or tried to pass anything through Congress, all we have to do is elect him president and it will all magically happen by the power of REVOLUTION.  And if you question this, or criticize his policies, REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS.

And that's not even starting on him as a person.  Why is it that Bernie is always surrounded by the worst people?  Why do all the worst figures in left-wing media and Twitter support him?  Why is his campaign employing tons of Jill Stein supporters and scam artists?  Even putting aside his kamikazeing into Hillary Clinton in April-July 2016, he's done so many other deplorable things.  Like when he went down to Florida to endorse Seth Rich truther Tim Canova against DWS.  Or how about when his campaign lied to supporters at the Nevada convention about the rules to try to concoct a DNC conspiracy out of thin air, his supporters rioted, the Nevada state party called him out on it, and he blamed them, which led Harry Reid to condemn him?  No other Democrat does this sh*t, it's always Bernie, causing trouble left and right in pursuit of his own self-interest above all else.
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GeneralMacArthur
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2019, 06:52:19 PM »

him never having written real legislation for them or tried to pass anything through Congress
Per usual, you are a MASSIVE LIAR.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357

That isn't real legislation.  You should try reading it sometime.  It's middle school meme legislation at best, and most of it isn't even that, just sheets of paper saying "we want to do this lol make it happen"
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GeneralMacArthur
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2019, 10:32:01 PM »

him never having written real legislation for them or tried to pass anything through Congress
Per usual, you are a MASSIVE LIAR.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357

That isn't real legislation.  You should try reading it sometime.  It's middle school meme legislation at best, and most of it isn't even that, just sheets of paper saying "we want to do this lol make it happen"
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s893/summary

I actually don't care about whatever legislation he did or didn't pass; I'm arguing on your terms

This is literally the only serious legislation he has ever passed, and it's one single page.
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